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Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by tambourine_man »

pooriaazimi wrote: post #28
tambourine_man wrote: post #27

Any recomendation on epub readers for Mac?

There's always Calibre[1], but it's really bloated. It's a very powerful and capable ebook management system though, it's just not really Mac-ish. Adobe has a very good ePub reader, called 'Adobe Digital Editions'[2] that runs on Mac, Windows and (I assume) Linux. It's an Adobe Flash/Air application and is much prettier than Calibre. If you don't mind Flash on your mac (I gave up last year), It's currently the best c…

Thanks. Isn't ePub just zipped xml/html? Why aren't there more choices? Seems like a wrapped Webkit would do the trick. Or maybe people just don't read much on PCs anymore.

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by mikehuffman »

mike-cardwell wrote: post #9

I was thinking of learning Backbone soon until I read about Meteor yesterday. Is there any point in learning Backbone, or should I just go the Meteor route?

I was very impressed with Meteor, but it is very new and isn't really bringing anything of substance to the table yet. Everything (other than client-side database interaction, which I am confused about who would want), that they spotlighted can be duplicated easily with backbone, node, and socket.io...right now. Moreover, backbone, in particular, is clearly a tool, like a screwdriver, that does a few things well and gets out of your way, whereas Meteor, like rails used to be, is more like an electronic lockpick...awesome magic for the limited scope of applicability, but not currently useful for most of the things you want to do in real life.

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by oscilloscope »

jashkenas wrote: post #21

A side question, which seems worth asking as long as this is floating at the top of HN ... We try to rotate in fresh projects into the list of Backbone apps on the homepage: http://backbonejs.org/#examples ... but there are often many more interesting things out there in the wild than we're necessarily aware of -- for example: Rdio, the new GoogleArtProject.com, and Pitchfork.com. Are you currently working on a fun B…

A lot of d3.js users use Backbone to manage datasets, and do simple dataflow architectures to link visualizations together.

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by pooriaazimi »

tambourine_man wrote: post #61
pooriaazimi wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's always Calibre[1], but it's really bloated. It's a very powerful and capable ebook management system though, it's just not really Mac-ish. Adobe has a very good ePub reader, called 'Adobe Digital Editions'[2] that runs on Mac, Windows and (I assume) Linux. It's an Adobe Flash/Air application and is much prettier than Calibre. If you don't mind Flash on your mac (I gave up last year), It's currently the best c…

Thanks. Isn't ePub just zipped xml/html? Why aren't there more choices? Seems like a wrapped Webkit would do the trick. Or maybe people just don't read much on PCs anymore.

It's more than just a zipped xml+css+html. There's a total mess underneath that open format specification (toc, item-references, etc).

Use Calibre (right click -> tweak ePub -> explode ePub), or eCub[1] to see and manipulate what's inside an epub...

[1]: http://www.juliansmart.com/ecub#mac

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by [deleted] »

tambourine_man wrote: post #61
pooriaazimi wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's always Calibre[1], but it's really bloated. It's a very powerful and capable ebook management system though, it's just not really Mac-ish. Adobe has a very good ePub reader, called 'Adobe Digital Editions'[2] that runs on Mac, Windows and (I assume) Linux. It's an Adobe Flash/Air application and is much prettier than Calibre. If you don't mind Flash on your mac (I gave up last year), It's currently the best c…

Thanks. Isn't ePub just zipped xml/html? Why aren't there more choices? Seems like a wrapped Webkit would do the trick. Or maybe people just don't read much on PCs anymore.

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Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by oscilloscope »

douglasisshiny wrote: post #49
knowtheory wrote: post #15

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Your question strikes me as an odd one. Meteor just came out. I'm not sure that there are any folks who have built any substantial systems using Meteor yet (aside from it's authors) who would be able to give you a firm recommendation. That said, Meteor and Backbone do different things. Meteor is an attempt to solve (obviate, really) the mismatch between client/server development. To what extent it does this in a reas…

I'm a newbie, although I feel somewhat informed on these subjects (although not skilled in coding). Anyway, I like the idea of using javascript everywhere. I plan on building smaller apps that are only client side. But I wonder if there is a cohesive method yet of using javascript everywhere. Obviously meteor was big news yesterday, but it's quite immature. The YUI Mojito project also recently made news and is more s…

Backbone, underscore, jquery, node, socket.io is a good place to start.

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by e2daipi »

jashkenas wrote: post #52
mcsheffrey wrote: post #48

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How can you tell that Pitchfork.com is using backbone?

Take a peek in the JS console: http://cl.ly/FmLu ... once I get a fuller description from them about how they're using it -- I'll post it up.

Why would you use Backbone as a global?
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