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Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman

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Related ongoing thread:

Satya Nadella's Statement on OpenAI - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38312355

and for completeness I suppose (though at the moment they're #1 and #2):

OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38309611

Greg Brockman quits OpenAI - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38312704

Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the rumors? In this case I think nothing is out of bound, including Skynet in the building.

They related to his personal and familial life and are about as bad as it gets, well apart from murder and torture or something, but fairly close.

The wording of the letter from the board sounded like he was keeping company details from them to me, not personal matters. Maybe I'm wrong but that was the impression I was under reading it.

Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman

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Microsoft invested $10b and owns 49% of OpenAi. Yet they don’t have a board seat? Thats genuinely insane, and seems like a huge issue.

They invested in the for-profit, not the non-profit. The non-profit controls the for-profit.

There are now 4 people left in the OpenAI non-profit board, after the ouster of both Sam and Greg today. 3 of the 4 remaining are virtual unknowns, and they control the fate of OpenAI, both the non-profit and the for-profit. Insane.

Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman

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> Microsoft, which has invested billions in OpenAI, learned that OpenAI was ousting CEO Sam Altman just a minute before the news was shared with the world, according to a person familiar with the situation. Well this probably disproves the theory that it was a power grab by Microsoft. It didn’t make too much sense anyway since they already have access to tech behind GPT and Microsoft doesn’t necessarily need the clou…

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Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman

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Greg Brockman has also left: https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559

Feels like the kind of situation where the two are just going to end up forming a new company that eventually surpasses OpenAI.

What would they bring to the table? It doesn't seem like Greg Brockman brings more than Ilya, and what would sam do?

Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Feels like the kind of situation where the two are just going to end up forming a new company that eventually surpasses OpenAI.

What would they bring to the table? It doesn't seem like Greg Brockman brings more than Ilya, and what would sam do?

A big investment from another trillion dollar tech company.

Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman

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Microsoft invested $10b and owns 49% of OpenAi. Yet they don’t have a board seat? Thats genuinely insane, and seems like a huge issue.

They invested in the for-profit, not the non-profit. The non-profit controls the for-profit.

To suggest that MSFTs lawyers didn’t think of this massive loophole and power dynamic issue with the non-profit parent co is ludicrous.

They 100% have leverage to exert influence on both, it’s just bad PR if word gets out.

Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman

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> Microsoft, which has invested billions in OpenAI, learned that OpenAI was ousting CEO Sam Altman just a minute before the news was shared with the world, according to a person familiar with the situation. Well this probably disproves the theory that it was a power grab by Microsoft. It didn’t make too much sense anyway since they already have access to tech behind GPT and Microsoft doesn’t necessarily need the clou…

> was ousting CEO Sam Altman just a minute before the news was shared with the world, according to a person familiar with the situation.

Maybe almost had to since it was during market hours.

Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman

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Greg Brockman has also left: https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559

What's with the lowercase? I think it's cute if someone is being deliberately low-effort, or trying to present that way, but IMO it's cringe to use it for consequential official statements like this.

I'm often stunned by how casually and poorly executives write. The more rich and powerful they are, the worse it seems to be. I guess things like proper capitalization, punctuation, full sentences, etc. aren't worth their time, and people will hang on every word that they write anyway.
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