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Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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Because the few men at the top are just as much richer compared the absolute majority of men as they are to women.

So, instead of picking a fight with 50% of humans, most of which share your problem, it would be far more useful to handle social issues as a team.

Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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Is part of the reason that there are a lot of younger men dying at much younger ages which skews the life expectancy? Or do they exclude outliers when they are putting the numbers together?

In short, yes. See the link in my earlier comment.

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Shouldn't it be the job of men and women to tackle the problems of men and women?

I really don’t demand altruism of others.

Seems like men aren’t generally interested in the problems of men.

Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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Fentanyl, a male suicide crisis and a strong cultural taboo around male mental health, bad responses to COVID-19, poor medical system, and social attitudes strongly attack tackling health care issues for men as somehow oppressive to women. (Compare and contrast funding for prostate cancer and breast cancer in the USA).

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These seem to apply in other countries too though.

Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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Feminists almost universally proclaim their ideology is in fact one of the pursuit of equality for all. That's the why. The name of course betrays the obvious and always has.

This and the grandparent comment sound pretty resentful. Men, we can do better than that.

Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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At age 54, I'm now in the final quarter of my life. That assumption inspires me. It discourages procrastination, and encourages me to let go of plans that probably won't happen, since I'm almost out of time. “To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time.” ― Leonard Bernstein

The life expectancy distribution is not flat: it varies considerably by income, location, and whether you do drugs. It's also a mean, not a median, skewed by early deaths from suicide, drugs, etc. The point being: if you're already 54, earning a median HN salary and not doing drugs, you'll probably live to a lot longer than 73.

> it varies considerably by income, location, and whether you do drugs

It's not even that complicated - if you've lived to age 54, you've already lived long enough to not die for the first 54 years and so your life expectancy is higher than the default "no info" value of 73 years old.

According to https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html, you have an expected 25 years left.

Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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You're literally describing how the patriarchy hurts men. > when all those arguments explain the gender pay gap Yes. Which is why you focus on the delta. The end goal is for that to be more equal via breaking down the societal structures we've created where men are expected to take on more risk and women are pressured against from taking more dangerous work. You're a raging feminist. The patriarchy isn't "men." Both…

We shouldn't focus on the delta (the outcome) but the roots. If men take more risks and die sooner, so be it. If women get jobs that pay less and earn less, so be it. However, men should be able to take less dangerous jobs. And women should be able to take higher paying jobs. (I believe this is already the case) We should just be asking ourselves: "are we not limiting people's freedom, regardless of their sex, race, religion, " If the answer is no, then we are good to go, even if we observe a delta in the outcomes (e.g. more blacks in NBA than whites... white are allowed to participate just as much, so the outcome doesn't matter).

Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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At age 54, I'm now in the final quarter of my life. That assumption inspires me. It discourages procrastination, and encourages me to let go of plans that probably won't happen, since I'm almost out of time. “To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time.” ― Leonard Bernstein

Drugs and obesity skew the numbers, so you're probably more likely in the final 1/3rd.

but 1/3 < 1/4 right?
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