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This webring isn't so much a ring as a wire, as one of the websites doesn't have the footer. This was always the problem with webrings in the first place - one broken link in the chain ruins it for everyone. Just like token ring based LANs
Web rung?
Let's see ...
I sprung from rung to rung
Skipping past the dung
On my wall let it be hung
That my feats remain unsung
You could have a footer that is some simple js that allows you to go to a sampling of related articles. Could track cross-domain referrals and give them a cut of generated ad revenue (not sure how you'd track that just yet).
To keep some of the riffraff out, you can charge a small fee to join the webring. Have the rings be able to manage their members to facilitate the removal of junk links.
Might make a nice small saas; though I'm not sure what the price point would be to make sense. Each ring priced as low as a $1/mo? $5/yr? Maybe a popular ring is worth $1000/mo.
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> Maintain what? Okay, you're kidding me right? Have you actually used Webrings? Lets say I click on a webring, and the "next" button goes to a 404 error. Now what? How do I access all the other links? Answer: you can't. Its basically lost information. Webrings require ALL the web-administrators in the ring to keep their previous-and-next links up-to-date, otherwise the whole ring collapses. There's a __reason__ why…
> were you really around for the time of webrings? Yup. > Webrings require ALL the web-administrators in the ring to keep their previous-and-next links up-to-date, otherwise the whole ring collapses. Nope. Not then, when IFRAMEs or a pre-CORS AJAX call delegated ring maintenance upstream, and not now, when we have about 1500 more ways to delegate it. Was there a short period where they were as crude as you describe?…
It is not a ring, but it can help you feel like it is: Someone shared this search site a while back: https://search.marginalia.nu/ It is a pretty great way to find smaller and more personal websites.
Marginalia has a URL parameter (&profile=vintage) for Web 1.0, https://search.marginalia.nu/search?query=hacker&profile=vin...
Tangential, but one thing I noticed recently is how algorithms on sites like twitter and linkedin - especially linkedin - will penalize posts that contain external links. So it's very hard to even tell people about content on your own site. HN might be one of the few places left that don't seem to do that. Thinking more - what used to be common is a section called "other cool sites" or something similar, which would…
The algorithms are probably trying to fight spam, but the end result is a closed, self-referential silo.
Consider that LinkedIn has been trying to establish(/convert) itself in part as a blogging platform, and keeps trying to show you other users' blog posts, unsolicited. But not links to Twitter/X, Substack, Rumble, external blogs etc etc. Even though many LI users' blog-type posts are low-grade, it's near-impossible to get them successfully flagged as spam or self-promotional. Every time LI serve you a link to some other content on-site, and suppress serving you an outbound link (even if it was higher-quality), it presumably increases engagement on LI.
[0]: https://www.linkedin.com/advice/0/how-do-you-avoid-recover-f...
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> were you really around for the time of webrings? Yup. > Webrings require ALL the web-administrators in the ring to keep their previous-and-next links up-to-date, otherwise the whole ring collapses. Nope. Not then, when IFRAMEs or a pre-CORS AJAX call delegated ring maintenance upstream, and not now, when we have about 1500 more ways to delegate it. Was there a short period where they were as crude as you describe?…
I can’t arbitrate here, but can add my anecdote to bolster what the person above is saying: I regularly remember clicking next on webrings and eventually getting a 404 with no way to progress. This was fairly regular to the extent that I sometimes just avoided clicking the webring modal.
Webrings require maintenance to be useful and worth using, just like search engines do. The better maintained and curated they are, the more useful they will be.
you could link to:
webring.com?site=my-page.com&nav=next
then visitors end up at
yourpage.com?webring=my-page.com
or
yourpage.com#webring
If you want it to work without a domain you could also have many next and previous buttons.
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