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Re: Goodbye Spotify

#61

Post by antifa »

oefrha wrote: post #22
thejarren wrote: post #6

I have music on Spotify that I will be removing as well because of their decision not to pay out small artist streams under a certain amount. I pay a distributor (distrokid) to send out music, and do not have a direct agreement with Spotify. As far as I'm concerned, monetizing my music without my consent is theft. Their argument is that the stream amount is so low it ends up not being worth the transaction. On a mora…

For those of us who don't know about the threshold and might think it's something outrageous -- it's 1000 streams, which translates to ~$3.

Do they actually pocket it, or do they roll it over to the next pay period until it reaches the threshold?

Re: Goodbye Spotify

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Post by oefrha »

antifa wrote: post #61
oefrha wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those of us who don't know about the threshold and might think it's something outrageous -- it's 1000 streams, which translates to ~$3.

Do they actually pocket it, or do they roll it over to the next pay period until it reaches the threshold?

All royalties are in a pool. They go to artists that meet the threshold. Also, the 1000 streams threshold is for a year.

Re: Goodbye Spotify

#63

Post by oefrha »

thejarren wrote: post #33
oefrha wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those of us who don't know about the threshold and might think it's something outrageous -- it's 1000 streams, which translates to ~$3.

You're right, it's not outrageous, but I'd argue theft at any size is still wrong. I think it's likely they kept this number very low specifically to keep people arguing about whether or not the amount was important, versus if it was OK to be doing in the first place.

It’s basically a <= $3 publishing fee that’s refunded if minimum success is achieved. Professionally producing a track typically costs thousands (I have musician friends).

Re: Goodbye Spotify

#64

Post by brainbag »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #11
nottheengineer wrote: post #8

The spotify app has become so ridiculously bad I can't use it anymore. I found out about Zotify [1], which can rip my entire collection from spotify. The API rate limits anything faster than real time listening though, so it'll take a few weeks to download everything. [1] https://zotify.xyz/

SongShift also works really well in my experience. I only use Apple Music in the car these days because its UX is safer/saner than Spotify's. SongShift makes it easy to keep them synced up.

Does it sync tracks that you Love in Apple Music? I have liked Apple Music a lot, except for one major thing when I realized that there is no way to view tracks that I have marked with Love, and I'm trying to find a way to get that information out.

Re: Goodbye Spotify

#66

Post by thejarren »

oefrha wrote: post #63
thejarren wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, it's not outrageous, but I'd argue theft at any size is still wrong. I think it's likely they kept this number very low specifically to keep people arguing about whether or not the amount was important, versus if it was OK to be doing in the first place.

It’s basically a <= $3 publishing fee that’s refunded if minimum success is achieved. Professionally producing a track typically costs thousands (I have musician friends).

(I am a musician) I think you’re missing the point. I already pay a publishing fee to my distributor.

Re: Goodbye Spotify

#67

Post by oefrha »

thejarren wrote: post #66
oefrha wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s basically a <= $3 publishing fee that’s refunded if minimum success is achieved. Professionally producing a track typically costs thousands (I have musician friends).

(I am a musician) I think you’re missing the point. I already pay a publishing fee to my distributor.

I honestly fail to see why it’s wrong for Spotify to adjust their commission structure to slightly favor more successful artists just because you have paid a third-party multi-channel distributor. Ask your distributor to renegotiate (over $3)?

Re: Goodbye Spotify

#68

Post by mahkeiro »

oefrha wrote: post #22
thejarren wrote: post #6

I have music on Spotify that I will be removing as well because of their decision not to pay out small artist streams under a certain amount. I pay a distributor (distrokid) to send out music, and do not have a direct agreement with Spotify. As far as I'm concerned, monetizing my music without my consent is theft. Their argument is that the stream amount is so low it ends up not being worth the transaction. On a mora…

For those of us who don't know about the threshold and might think it's something outrageous -- it's 1000 streams, which translates to ~$3.

Is it 1000 streams for a track or the artist?

Re: Goodbye Spotify

#69

Post by libraryatnight »

thejarren wrote: post #6

I have music on Spotify that I will be removing as well because of their decision not to pay out small artist streams under a certain amount. I pay a distributor (distrokid) to send out music, and do not have a direct agreement with Spotify. As far as I'm concerned, monetizing my music without my consent is theft. Their argument is that the stream amount is so low it ends up not being worth the transaction. On a mora…

I'm sure they'll miss you given you weren't even breaking their pitifully low stream threshold for payout. If you don't like the platform's terms, don't choose them as a place you want DistroKid to put your music. This comment is so entitled and pathetic.

Re: Goodbye Spotify

#70

Post by p0w3n3d »

I recently started buying out CDs of bands that I value. I don't cancel Spotify now because I don't have all the music I listen to, but thanks for warning. We have to prepare for big black hole of access to our culture when it becomes no longer mainstream.

At this moment shows I used to watch are removed from all the platforms too, leaving me the only option to "buy" them on Amazon. "Buy" because they will still be in a cloud, and one harsh blow of the wind can make the cloud gone. The wind of changes I mean.

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