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Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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You mean 36% of e-commerce and an even smaller portion of all retail?

Yes, 36% (I believe it's actually 37.6%) of e-commerce is a large portion. It is 587% larger than the second place competitor.

Yes because Amazon used unfair practices to crush small competitors like Walmart…

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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Apple doesn’t have an exclusive agreement with Amazon for online sales. I agree though bidding on a trademark where you can advertise as a competitor when someone explicitly searches for a brand should be considered copyright infringement. It’s definitely a horrible user experience - Apple, Google, and Amazon all do it

why would it be copyright infringement and not trademark infringement?

You are absolutely correct.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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my question is why hasn't the FBI seized every Amazon warehouse for knowingly selling counterfeit goods? They do this routinely for smaller businesses selling fake stuff

Because they don't "knowingly sell counterfeit goods". Amazon employees don't create these listings, other people do. Someone that "knowingly sells counterfeit goods" is humanly aware that a specific item they are selling is counterfeit, and decide to sell it anyway, which is not the case here. These listings are taken down whack-a-mole style as Amazon is made humanly aware of their existence.

Sounds like Amazon should vet the items before allowing them be listed.

Strange how easy it is to brush off accountability and still make a profit off of illegalities.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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my question is why hasn't the FBI seized every Amazon warehouse for knowingly selling counterfeit goods? They do this routinely for smaller businesses selling fake stuff

Because they don't "knowingly sell counterfeit goods". Amazon employees don't create these listings, other people do. Someone that "knowingly sells counterfeit goods" is humanly aware that a specific item they are selling is counterfeit, and decide to sell it anyway, which is not the case here. These listings are taken down whack-a-mole style as Amazon is made humanly aware of their existence.

Does Amazon do literally anything to pro-actively prevent the selling of counterfeit goods?

> Prior to the deal, Apple sent “hundreds of thousands of take-down notices” to Amazon to reduce counterfeits, and the company conducted test purchases on Amazon that “consistently returned high counterfeit rates

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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Because they don't "knowingly sell counterfeit goods". Amazon employees don't create these listings, other people do. Someone that "knowingly sells counterfeit goods" is humanly aware that a specific item they are selling is counterfeit, and decide to sell it anyway, which is not the case here. These listings are taken down whack-a-mole style as Amazon is made humanly aware of their existence.

Sounds like Amazon should vet the items before allowing them be listed. Strange how easy it is to brush off accountability and still make a profit off of illegalities.

That is a fair position. I was commenting on how "knowingly" works.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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Yes, 36% (I believe it's actually 37.6%) of e-commerce is a large portion. It is 587% larger than the second place competitor.

Yes because Amazon used unfair practices to crush small competitors like Walmart…

No, I don't think I've seen that being claimed. It has been claimed that they have used their anticompetitive practices against others. Having Walmart as a competitor doesn't mean that they don't have a dominant market position with power to abuse at their disposal.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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Amazon knows all about of the garbage being sold on its site but only does something about it if you're a massive tech company who threatens to sue, very cool. I wonder how many of these thumb drives are legit. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=2+tb+thumb+drive&crid=YZ410MSN6L1...

my question is why hasn't the FBI seized every Amazon warehouse for knowingly selling counterfeit goods? They do this routinely for smaller businesses selling fake stuff

> my question is why hasn't the FBI seized every Amazon warehouse for knowingly selling counterfeit goods?

What government would kill the goose that lays golden eggs? They pay tax. Buyers pay tax. Huge amount (but not that much as I expected [0]). What else is needed?

0 - https://www.investopedia.com/insights/amazon-effect-us-econo...

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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> In contrast, product pages for Apple competitors like Samsung are riddled with ads from competitors, recommendations, and other sponsored banners. Insider says that other companies, including Samsung, have complained about the preferential treatment given to Apple. You shouldn't be allowed to place ads against another company's product listings or trademarked brands. You shouldn't be able to pay Google to advertise…

Competitors to a trademarked brand should absolutely be able to purchase ads against that brand.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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post #64

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Because they don't "knowingly sell counterfeit goods". Amazon employees don't create these listings, other people do. Someone that "knowingly sells counterfeit goods" is humanly aware that a specific item they are selling is counterfeit, and decide to sell it anyway, which is not the case here. These listings are taken down whack-a-mole style as Amazon is made humanly aware of their existence.

Does Amazon do literally anything to pro-actively prevent the selling of counterfeit goods? > Prior to the deal, Apple sent “hundreds of thousands of take-down notices” to Amazon to reduce counterfeits, and the company conducted test purchases on Amazon that “consistently returned high counterfeit rates

Have you ever gotten counterfeit Amazon Basics products? I thought not. Amazon could shut this down of they actually cared.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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> In contrast, product pages for Apple competitors like Samsung are riddled with ads from competitors, recommendations, and other sponsored banners. Insider says that other companies, including Samsung, have complained about the preferential treatment given to Apple. You shouldn't be allowed to place ads against another company's product listings or trademarked brands. You shouldn't be able to pay Google to advertise…

> You shouldn't be allowed to place ads against another company's product listings or trademarked brands.

As as consumer, this is precisely where I want competitors ads. Competition is a good thing, for me.

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