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The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

#61

Yay privacy out of the window... AI wants to see and hear everything with access the Internet. Otherwise its hell of an interesting concept! Reminds me of the Robot Assistant in "flubber"

(i'm an investor in the company.)

this is probably the most privacy-forward hardware device on the market—you have to physically be making contact with the device for it to begin listening (at which point an LED is prominently visible) and it will stop listening as soon as you break contact.

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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post #54

From a consumer standpoint, I do not see the main advantages of this device over a better designed smartwatch or a smart wristband. The main interface, i.e. the projection onto the hand is a very novel and innovative concept but also blurry and cumbersome. A watch would also technically be able to perform all the function shown here. And personally, with how much we are all in need of a smartphone, might as well make…

They likely went with this form factor because it allows for the camera to look forward and use that context in its responses. A watch wouldn't easily be able to do this.

You could make a smartwatch with a camera facing up from the screen. The user could bring their palm to their chest (so watchface faces out) to activate it. Then the camera can see forward and the microphone is close to the user.

And then you could do video calls on the same device too.

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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I just don't get this, or any other "VUI"/voice-centric platform for that matter. The killer feature of the smartphone or watch isn't that it's the most convenient (which it is), it's that whatever you want to do on it is at least somewhat private. I don't want the guy next to me on the train to know I'm messaging Andrew, and he doesn't want to hear me message Andrew either. Asking me to speak out loud these commands removes that privacy. I think this type of "out loud interface" is the wrong direction for personal devices... forcing us to expose our "private selves" or conflate that with our "public selves" is really an area where humans need to draw the line, IMO.

This is why Alexa (and other voice assistants) are only really valuable in the home, and typically as communal devices... its mode is public by default. "What's the weather?", "Play The Beatles", "Add milk to my shopping list" are not expected to be private. How does a device like Humane offer us an "incognito mode", where everyone within earshot doesn't know exactly what I'm doing?

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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post #54

From a consumer standpoint, I do not see the main advantages of this device over a better designed smartwatch or a smart wristband. The main interface, i.e. the projection onto the hand is a very novel and innovative concept but also blurry and cumbersome. A watch would also technically be able to perform all the function shown here. And personally, with how much we are all in need of a smartphone, might as well make…

They likely went with this form factor because it allows for the camera to look forward and use that context in its responses. A watch wouldn't easily be able to do this.

If so, they made a big bet. Vision LLMs were literally made this year. Before that, parsing images to get a coherent response is pretty resource intensive and not really reliable at all. Designing the entire device around image capturing for context seems like a very risky approach so I doubt that was their main reason.

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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post #47

It's funny that the company was founded 6+ years ago and this product has been in development at least since that time, but all of a sudden it's all about AI? We really going to pretend all these features weren't shoveled in in the last 3 months by buying a ChatGPT API token? Recognizing the food you are holding and coming up with a calorie count was the only part of the demo I found genuinely cool, but I also know t…

(i'm an investor in the company, and invested over 3 years ago.)

this product has always been about AI—what they launched is almost exactly what they pitched me. their expectation of where the world going ended up being prescient.

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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post #61

Yay privacy out of the window... AI wants to see and hear everything with access the Internet. Otherwise its hell of an interesting concept! Reminds me of the Robot Assistant in "flubber"

(i'm an investor in the company.) this is probably the most privacy-forward hardware device on the market—you have to physically be making contact with the device for it to begin listening (at which point an LED is prominently visible) and it will stop listening as soon as you break contact.

Do you know when it will launch in Poland or Europe? I want one.

I often have to deal with communicating with people in other languages this would save me so much time.

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

#68
post #6

Launch Video: https://vimeo.com/882968794 A lot of the interactions seem to take longer vs me just taking my phone out and quickly doing what I need to do. Its compelling given this is a v1 of the product so it will only get better from here but not completely sold on it just yet.

so it's like a phone, but there's no apps or functionality other than what's built into the base OS, and there's no screen or input controls other than voice and gesture, it only plays music from Tidal, and only connects to t-mobile, and looks to everybody around me like i'm always wearing a camera pointed at them?

pass

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

#69
I'm not gonna lie, this type of technology is what I've been looking forward to ever since watching the movie Her. As a first generation of the technology, it definitely has some issues and oddities, but I think those could be easy enough to work out with future iterations and updates.

A more natural speaking voice. Bluetooth earphones for a more personal interaction experience with the device (maybe even control with your hand in front of the camera and receive audio feedback through the earphones)? Color projector with more fidelity as a new form of interaction (can use it like a screen for short periods, but it's not the main interaction method).

I'd also think some advancements for on-device processing of daily life/events could be really helpful. For example, being able to have it sync to a cloud drive as a repository of my docs (like Google NotebookLM), or holding up a piece of paper in front of it and having it record it and process that info. Just so it's able to better operate as an analogue of a real life PERSONAL assistant, rather than an assistant that just searches the internet for me and tells me what's on my phone.

I don't want to get my hopes up, and it definitely has a tough road ahead of it to disrupt the industry, but I think it really could become an incredibly useful product.

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have a video demonstrating the laser display (laser part is about 3 minutes in): https://vimeo.com/882968794

Oof, next level DRM/anti repair: 01:49 > The AI pin privacy chip also protects it from being exploited, which means if it's ever physically tampered with, it will require service from humane to restore operation.

What an absolute feature.
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