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Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Might as well have a quick discussion here. How's everyone finding the new models? 4-Turbo is a bit worse than 4 for my NLP work. But it's so much cheaper that I'll probably move every pipeline to using that. Depending on the exact problem it can even be comparable in quality/price to 3.5-turbo. However the fact that output tokens are limited to 4096 is a big asterisk on the 128k context.

I haven't really kept up with the updates, but I've noticed 4's in-conversation memory seems worse lately.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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URGENT - Does anyone have an alternative to OpenAI's embeddings API? I do have alternative to GPT's API (e.g. Anthropic Claude) but I'm not able to use them without embeddings API (used to generate semantic representation of my knowledge base and also to create embeddings from user's queries). We need to have an alternative to OpenAI's embeddings as a fallback in case of outages.

I've implemented alternate embeddings in SlothAI using Instructor, which is running an early preview at https://ai.featurebase.com/. Currently working on the landing page, which I'm doing manually because ChatGPT is down.

The plan is to add Llama 2 completions to the processors, which would include dictionary completion (keyterm/sentiment/etc), chat completion, code completion, for reasons exactly like what we're discussing.

Here's the code for the Instructor embeddings: https://github.com/FeatureBaseDB/Laminoid/blob/main/sloth/sl...

To do Instructor embeddings, do the imports then reference the embed() function. It goes without saying that these vectors can't be mixed with other types of vectors, so you would have to reindex your data to make them compatible.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Lots of jokes to be made, but we are setting ourselves up for some big rippling negative effects by so quickly building a reliance on providers like OpenAI. It took years before most companies who now use cloud providers to trust and be willing to bet their operations on them. That gave the cloud providers time to make their systems more robust, and to learn how to resolve issues quickly.

The point is, OpenAI spent a lot of money on training on all these copyrighted materials ordinary individuals/companies don't have access to, so replicating their effort would mean that you either 1) spend a ridiculous amount of money, 2) use Library Genesis (and still pay millions for GPU usage). So we have very little choice now. Open Source LLMs might be getting close to ChatGPT3 (opinions vary), but OpenAI is still far ahead.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This came up the other day. I decided to tease everyone with an 'I told you so' about using some third party hosting service instead of the offline one I had developed years prior. The offline service was still working, and people were doing their job. The online service was not working, and it was causing other people to be unable to do their job. We had 0 control over the third party. The other thing, I make softwa…

Do you write your refrigerators firmware?

If you are regularly updating your refrigerator's firmware or your refrigerator's firmware relies on an Internet connection to function, then I am very sorry to say this but you have lost control of your life :)

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This came up the other day. I decided to tease everyone with an 'I told you so' about using some third party hosting service instead of the offline one I had developed years prior. The offline service was still working, and people were doing their job. The online service was not working, and it was causing other people to be unable to do their job. We had 0 control over the third party. The other thing, I make softwa…

Do you write your refrigerators firmware?

No, but the firmware runs locally, instead of in someone else's cloud, so an outage in their cloud cannot take down my fridge.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Lots of jokes to be made, but we are setting ourselves up for some big rippling negative effects by so quickly building a reliance on providers like OpenAI. It took years before most companies who now use cloud providers to trust and be willing to bet their operations on them. That gave the cloud providers time to make their systems more robust, and to learn how to resolve issues quickly.

On the one hand, sure, new things take time, but they also benefit from all past developments, and thus compounding effects can speed things along drastically. AI infrastructure problem are cloud infrastructure problems. Expecting it to go as if we were back on square one is a bit pessimistic.
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