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Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

#61
Tutanota likes to tell everyone that they are literally Signal in the email world in terms of security. But there is a known vulnerability in their "E2EE": https://github.com/tutao/tutanota/issues/768

There is no way to verify key fingerprint of your recipient right now. So server can just man-in-the-middle you providing third-party key and read all messages silently. It is not e2e encryption if you have to trust the server. Period.

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

#62

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Fastmail is supposed to be good. But you can just buy your own domain with Email hosting. It is free with gandi.net. Or use https://www.infomaniak.com/ Infomaniak also sells email hosting for around 20 Euro per year, they are based in Switzerland. If you have your own domain, just type the domain name as you would buy the domain and if the interface says domain taken, select email hosting (the three dots).

Just note that fastmail‘s search is basically useless if you expect Gmail-like search (unless I am missing some sort of trick to get it working). The rest of Fastmail is excellent though.

I use thunderbird IMAP and honestly, the search is not great either. If I have trouble finding something, recoll normally does the job. It indexes thunderbird too. And should you have a ZIP attachement in thunderbird, it will index the content too. :-). I think you could even set up up with cuneiform that a PDF inside the ZIP attachment goes through OCR should it not be plain text.

https://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/pages/index-recoll.htm...

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

#63

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What is $normalemailprovider? I have been looking for an alternative that is more standard, but it seems like only Fastmail is big in this space. The rest are small shops that don't convey a lot of confidence.

Fastmail is supposed to be good. But you can just buy your own domain with Email hosting. It is free with gandi.net. Or use https://www.infomaniak.com/ Infomaniak also sells email hosting for around 20 Euro per year, they are based in Switzerland. If you have your own domain, just type the domain name as you would buy the domain and if the interface says domain taken, select email hosting (the three dots).

You can also get your own domain, and have FastMail host your e-mail with that. It has the benefit of not tying your e-mail address to any single e-mail hoster: you own the domain for it.

FastMail has excellent documentation to get this set up. Migrating there from GMail (were I already used my own domain) was a breeze.

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

#64
post #61

Tutanota likes to tell everyone that they are literally Signal in the email world in terms of security. But there is a known vulnerability in their "E2EE": https://github.com/tutao/tutanota/issues/768 There is no way to verify key fingerprint of your recipient right now. So server can just man-in-the-middle you providing third-party key and read all messages silently. It is not e2e encryption if you have to trust the…

You can slap PGP on top

Presto

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

#65
post #61

Tutanota likes to tell everyone that they are literally Signal in the email world in terms of security. But there is a known vulnerability in their "E2EE": https://github.com/tutao/tutanota/issues/768 There is no way to verify key fingerprint of your recipient right now. So server can just man-in-the-middle you providing third-party key and read all messages silently. It is not e2e encryption if you have to trust the…

You can slap PGP on top Presto

But you can do that with any provider right?

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

#66

I used Tuta for both private and business use for a couple of years. Switched away because of terrible search experience and lack of SMTP and IMAP access. Tuta became understandably a walled garden that my other tools couldn't easily work with. This wasted alot of my time. Nowadays using $normalemailprovider with Thunderbird.

What is $normalemailprovider? I have been looking for an alternative that is more standard, but it seems like only Fastmail is big in this space. The rest are small shops that don't convey a lot of confidence.

Big or not, Fastmail is a great service and one I’ve used for many years now.

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

#69

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Same here, the search was horrible and eventually caused me to move away. Using mailbox.org is a much more pleasant experience. Other options: https://www.privacytools.io/privacy-email

Thanks for your feedback. We're planning to re-do the search implementation completely as it needs a major overhaul to quickly search larger mailboxes. We're constantly improving the service, for instance we've just added unlimited email addresses with your own domain ( https://tuta.com/blog/summer-releases-2023 ) so always happy to hear feedback and how we can meet your needs!

You are conveniently ignoring the comment mentioning your bad E2E implementation and commenting on other comments. Why?

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

#70

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The main ones for me: - (To my knowledge) Tuta doesn't have secondary services like VPN, etc. - Tuta intentionally does not provide a bridge for email. So everything with their service has to be done through their apps. If you want to use your own email client or command line tools (such as for submitting patchsets to mailing lists), that's not an option.

"So everything with their service has to be done through their apps." What sane person would do this? Use infomaniak instead (Switzerland). Tuta seems to be a German company. There is another one, I forgot the name but a few friends of mine were using it. I used google, could not find it but I am actually surprised that there are many providers. E.g. https://www.qualityhosting.de/hosted-exchange/hosted-exchang... htt…

>What sane person would do this?

I use Gmail, and have exclusively used the web app and Android app to access it, for, what, 15 years? I don't think it's insane, if those apps work well.

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