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AI App Graveyard

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Re: AI App Graveyard

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There are a ton of companies that are basically a wrapper around GPT-4 with some minimal amount of application code. These folks can create impressive demos that wow minimally informed investors, but the reality is that if it took a few weeks to make there's no defensibility. I see the profits in the current AI hype cycle going to the leading foundational model company (why pay for the 2nd best?) and the companies th…

That’s a compelling story. But that doesn’t make it accurate. We are early on and it’s hard to determine how large or small the ecosystem and value that will be created on top. Some went big, like personal computers, the internet, databases, Java, electricity, and so on. Others did not (yet), web3 (maybe), other databases, low code platform, website builders, workstations, many old personal computing systems, etc. Ye…

There is value created, but the argument was that it is the big ones with existing customer relationships that are going to benefit, not the 100th startup that offers an AI assistant to schedule appointments via voice commands. I think all of that second group of thin GPT wrappers will be eaten by the entities developing and running the foundational models like OpenAI.

In general, AI is data hungry and college kids in their dorm room will always be at a disadvantage in that regard compared to large companies (many of which locked down scraping on their properties, even if "their" content is mainly generated by users, i.e. non-employees).

Re: AI App Graveyard

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post #11

There are a ton of companies that are basically a wrapper around GPT-4 with some minimal amount of application code. These folks can create impressive demos that wow minimally informed investors, but the reality is that if it took a few weeks to make there's no defensibility. I see the profits in the current AI hype cycle going to the leading foundational model company (why pay for the 2nd best?) and the companies th…

> I see the profits in the current AI hype cycle going to the leading foundational model company (why pay for the 2nd best?)

Because it's a race to the bottom. Look at crowded spaces like TTS. Eleven Labs looks like hot shit, but in actuality they have over a dozen well-funded direct competitors. Including OpenAI.

There won't be a "Twilio of [X] Model Inference", nor will there be a "Best Foundational Model for [Y]". These are features, not moats.

Re: AI App Graveyard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many mobile and web apps are database wrappers too. Replicability isn’t the only part of value. Solving a valuable problem is. What about the tools quietly moving mountains and not seeking the spotlight? Most customers of software are not in the software development space.

I think that those tools not seeking the spotlight might also be at risk. I'm fairly sure some of these tools have a 'twin' that has found success by securing early adopters and has become the de-facto tool for 'X' job, largely due to marketing.

Very plausible.

Still it feels like there’s way more problems that software hasn’t quite solved yet that LLMs may only go near.

Re: AI App Graveyard

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Am I missing here, or this site lists GPT4ALL as dead/discontinued while GPT4ALL's website seems to have the project alive and well on all levels?

Re: AI App Graveyard

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post #31

Site appears to be toast. Belongs in the ought to exist site titled "Hackernews Hug of Death Scrapyard".

Man, cloudflare is like a few minutes. Maybe their domain registrar features need to be better known.

Ironically, I think their domain registrar features are too well known — I've moved all of my domains off of cloudflare after reading a thread on HN. The one where a person had their account blocked without explanation, and CF refused to transfer, effectively stealing a domain name from a paying customer (which must be a great business model).

Re: AI App Graveyard

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Site appears to be toast. Belongs in the ought to exist site titled "Hackernews Hug of Death Scrapyard".

Man, cloudflare is like a few minutes. Maybe their domain registrar features need to be better known.

But do keep complaining about how centralization is killing the internet!
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