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I need to play Kerbel Space Program. I have absolutely no intuition about this sort of thing. Some intuition around orbital mechanics from my physics days but rocketry is a bit of a mystery.
For me it helped to remember that the term that matters in the rocket equation is exhaust velocity , not momentum. You want to be shooting the lightest things you can out the back of the rocket, at the highest speed. Unfortunately with chemical rockets, the energy source and reaction mass are the same thing, so you're kind of stuck with whatever burning your fuel gives you. But when you can separate reaction mass fro…
Nuclear Conversion for Starship
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#62Aren't SpaceX launch explosions big enough already?
I don't know why you're downvoted. I think it's a legitimate question. When I was in high school I asked " Why don't we just shoot our nuclear waste into the sun? ". As an adult, Kerbal Space Program has taught me that it's incredibly difficult to lose the orbital velocity and get things into the Sun! But the answer my teachers told me was "Well, even if rockets have a 99.5% success rate and a 0.5% failure rate, and…
So its safe to fly a new reactor into a stable orbit, if something bad happens you'll scatter some uranium but that's just toxic heavy metal bad, not radiation hazard bad. Just make sure the orbit is high enough to be stable, not like Kosmos 1402.
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Did you read to the end? That's the idea he ends up with: only use nuclear propulsion for space-to-space travel where you don't care as much about shielding.
I make no claims about my reading comprehension. That last bit seemed too narrow to me. Once you have all the bits in orbit, shielding doesn’t seem too onerous. Is the claim that even space-space shielding + reactor is too heavy to be worth the advantage of the nuclear drive?
> If we need the full performance advantage of nuclear propulsion, we should design a spaceship that is intended for it from the get-go. It never lands, only going from orbit to orbit, so there is no need for heat shielding, flaps, high thrust engines, thick steel structure or aerodynamic shaping requirements.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you read to the end? That's the idea he ends up with: only use nuclear propulsion for space-to-space travel where you don't care as much about shielding.
I make no claims about my reading comprehension. That last bit seemed too narrow to me. Once you have all the bits in orbit, shielding doesn’t seem too onerous. Is the claim that even space-space shielding + reactor is too heavy to be worth the advantage of the nuclear drive?
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#65AFAIK, the only nuclear rocket that makes sense is landing a reactor on an icy comet and using it to shoot super heated steam wherever you want thrust. #seveneves
The Project Orion design (shoot hundreds of fission bombs out the back and ride the shock wave on a reaction plate) is surprisingly practical, and probably our only way to get humans past Mars. It's just kind of terrifying.
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#66First I am reading about nuclear engines applied to Starship. I wonder if it would be more practical to launch the reactor, fuel, and propellant into orbit using conventional rockets. Later a mission could pick up this Nuclear rocket engine and use it as a sort of booster while not inside a strong gravitational field. Ofc that doesn’t sound like Starship at all.
That was (part of) the original plan, post Apollo program. Somehow it got stripped down to to just a space shuttle. :-( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Transportation_System
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#67AFAIK, the only nuclear rocket that makes sense is landing a reactor on an icy comet and using it to shoot super heated steam wherever you want thrust. #seveneves
The Project Orion design (shoot hundreds of fission bombs out the back and ride the shock wave on a reaction plate) is surprisingly practical, and probably our only way to get humans past Mars. It's just kind of terrifying.
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For specific impulse. When you have unlimited power, you want the lightest possible molecular mass exhaust for the best total delta V.
So, since beta radiation is even lower mass... just put a block of nickel-63 into a magnetic lens?
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Project Orion design (shoot hundreds of fission bombs out the back and ride the shock wave on a reaction plate) is surprisingly practical, and probably our only way to get humans past Mars. It's just kind of terrifying.
Not really any more terrifying than driving around in vehicles powered by thousands of tiny explosions per minute.