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Re: Dot by New Computer

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Post by floren »

refulgentis wrote: post #60
sillywalk wrote: post #13

"Dot is, at its most simple, an app you chat with on iOS. You can send it words, voice memos, pictures, PDFs, and it’s thrilled to search the web for you, too. Communicating through written text (Dot’s voice is coming next year)" [0]. It looks quite "ambitious"[1]: - Automated File Management: Dot creates, organizes, and retrieves both structured and unstructured information. - Adaptive Intelligence: It learns from p…

I'm a bit perturbed by the, uh, inflation here. Looks like a product manager wishlist for a team of 1000 over 7 years

Most of those bullets are "we are using a LLM with some basic LLM-interfacing techniques"

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Post by jmrm »

This is really interesting not just as an app per se, but as a new human-machine interface.

This should be great as a team working tool, where you can ask if something is done, how were done, what parts are missing, retrieve what is done, etc.

Integrating this in a ecosystem like Google Apps, Office 365, or similar would be great in order to being able to access that information inserted in other ways, with the pluses of email, calendar, and sync services.

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Post by al_borland »

I’m not sure why someone would want to trust an AI chat startup with holding onto grandma’s special recipe. 95% of these AI startups are not going to exist in 5 years as the market sorts out how AI is used and which companies win and lose. None of the offerings coming out right now should be used for data archival of any kind. Anything put into these AI chat bots should be considered throw away.

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Post by annoyingnoob »

karaterobot wrote: post #29

What can I do with this app that I couldn't do without it? It's just weird to me to turn over such mundane tasks as saving a recipe or looking at my school's listing of singing clubs over to an AI assistant. There may (or, historically, may not ) be efficiencies to keeping my entire life in an app, but what's the new thing I can do as a result of this? Keep in mind that it has to be cooler than the lifetime cost of t…

> It's just weird to me to turn over such mundane tasks as saving a recipe or looking at my school's listing of singing clubs over to an AI assistant.

I understood that the app will deeply profile you and advertise to you. Ads, now from whatever AI 'thinks' about your life!

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Post by tnolet »

“2,5 years later, Mei receives an email from Dot’s CEO that Dot will be ‘joining forces’ with Salesforce as their ‘incredible journey’ comes to an end.”

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Post by crooked-v »

leodriesch wrote: post #9

Their privacy policy lists OpenAI as one of their partners for data processing, which indicates that this is happening not on your device, and data is also shared with third parties. For me this is the main counterargument against apps like these. I want to feel free to post any information into this without thinking about who may read or use it. Local is the only way to go for software like this in my opinion.

That also means it's useless for interacting with your life if your life happens to include anything above a PG-13 rating, what with how cloyingly pearl-clutching the OpenAI offerings are about sex or violence.

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Post by micromacrofoot »

aroman wrote: post #53
angoragoats wrote: post #44

This is the most likely-to-be-Sherlocked[1] thing I've seen in a while. And when Apple does it, the processing will be done on-device. [1] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sherlocked

Same could have been said of Workflow — which Apple acquired and rebranded as a first-party app.

acquisition doesn't really count as sherlocking, it's usually implementing an idea from an existing app without any money being exchanged

a more recent example this was F.lux, which Apple implemented as "Night Shift"

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Post by famouswaffles »

refulgentis wrote: post #60
sillywalk wrote: post #13

"Dot is, at its most simple, an app you chat with on iOS. You can send it words, voice memos, pictures, PDFs, and it’s thrilled to search the web for you, too. Communicating through written text (Dot’s voice is coming next year)" [0]. It looks quite "ambitious"[1]: - Automated File Management: Dot creates, organizes, and retrieves both structured and unstructured information. - Adaptive Intelligence: It learns from p…

I'm a bit perturbed by the, uh, inflation here. Looks like a product manager wishlist for a team of 1000 over 7 years

Not really. Putting this all together is ambitious but individually, they're all things that have been realized to some degree.

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Post by famouswaffles »

angoragoats wrote: post #44

This is the most likely-to-be-Sherlocked[1] thing I've seen in a while. And when Apple does it, the processing will be done on-device. [1] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sherlocked

This is the kind of thing where adoption and user mass matters a great deal. If thois is successful and apple are too slow to roll out something like this, don't expect a lot of users to "just switch" out of what they've invested a great deal of personal data and routine into. It'd have to be something even deeper, like OS level integration.
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