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Re: HubSpot Acquires Clearbit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really... they're just vertically integrated and have their own ad networks. Consequently, they're not protecting data because they care about privacy -- they're protecting data because the wider they share the raw data, the less value it (their product) is. It's economic self-interest, not ethics. If they didn't have ad networks, they'd sell anything and everything in a heartbeat.

Be that as it may, their object-level behavior is still far less shady. And in fact this is an argument that it is good that they exist, because in the counterfactual world where they don't, their niche would be filled by these non-vertically-integrated data brokers and advertisers who ARE financially incentivized to leak and sell and share far more information. I used to be all gung-ho about being anti-FAANG, those…

> their niche would be filled by these non-vertically-integrated data brokers and advertisers who ARE financially incentivized to leak and sell and share far more information

I look at it a slightly different way.

Absent the vertical integration, they wouldn't dominate the market.

Absent dominating the market, they wouldn't wield as many resources.

Absent as many resources, they wouldn't have been able to build a panopticon in the first place.

And even if there were excesses in an alternate world... there would be a market of competitors, which would encourage different behavior.

And possibly even (gasp!) regulation because of the worst excesses.

Instead, FAANG wield vast resources, culled from entrenched monopoly positions, and act just responsible enough (plus lobbying) to avoid regulation.

Re: HubSpot Acquires Clearbit

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Curious to see how Clearbit will be integrated into HubSpot and if the Clearbit API will remain open for others to use. Are there any other viable competitors to Clearbit for coverage and quality? We have a legacy plan for my startup at a very good price, so I've never checked out the other options.

Hubspot have been working on how they improve the data that their customers have in their CRM system. The state of CRM data across companies is... variable to say the least, with a leaning towards the poor side. It's often entered by hand, by a salesperson with a telephone handset in the other hand. Typos, inaccuracy abound, which limits the ability to analyse and gain insight from the data, as well as to use it effe…

Very neat. How do companies actually get/derive the data to do IP to business matching though?
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