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Judge pares down artists' AI copyright lawsuit against Midjourney, Stability AI

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Re: Judge pares down artists' AI copyright lawsuit against Midjourney, Stability AI

#63

Amazing how copyright law amazingly disappears when it's to the detriment of major tech companies and protecting smaller creators. Just amazing!

I’m not sure if here you are reading that. Have you read the article?

The copyright infringement claim (for training) is left intact. It’s the other claims that had no basis in existing law (e.g. no copyright was registered, etc) that have been thrown out.

Re: Judge pares down artists' AI copyright lawsuit against Midjourney, Stability AI

#64

Amazing how copyright law amazingly disappears when it's to the detriment of major tech companies and protecting smaller creators. Just amazing!

> Amazing how copyright law amazingly disappears

Can you elaborate in what way it disappeared in your opinion?

Re: Judge pares down artists' AI copyright lawsuit against Midjourney, Stability AI

#65
This will be the greatest act of Intellectual Property theft in history.

All because judges will be befuddled about what to do after hearing terms like “training data” and “compression”. We will, of course get the emails in 10-20 years showing that it’s all lies and that the CEOs of these companies knew exactly what they were doing.

If this continues, AI will be the great inequality machine in history. Take data from 1,000,000 individuals, train your AI to replace them, compensate no one.

You can do this in every area: driving, farming, cooking. Music. Just dispossess everyone of all their property by training an AI to copy all their work! What could be easier (and less morally right)…

Re: Judge pares down artists' AI copyright lawsuit against Midjourney, Stability AI

#66
Can someone explain again how an ML system scanning and training on a copyrighted work is different from a highly skilled artist doing the same?

There are artists that can study a painting for a few minutes and then recreate it from memory. There are artists who study a particular body of work so long that they can create more works indistinguishable in style. If an artist recreates a copyrighted work or creates a derivative too close to the original, then that new work is potentially copyright infringement.

That is, we focus on the output of the process to determine infringement with living artists and ignore the training. But with ML, everyone focuses on the training.

It seems an ML tool could add a filter to the output and refuse to output a work that too closely resembles one or more work under copyright. Isn't that basically what legitimate professional artists do as well?

Thousands of artists are capable of infringement, but we don't take away their brushes based on capability.

Re: Judge pares down artists' AI copyright lawsuit against Midjourney, Stability AI

#67
> Two of the three artists who filed the lawsuit have dropped their infringement claims because they didn’t register their work with the copyright office before suing. The copyright claims will be limited to artist Sarah Anderson’s works, which she has registered.

I’m impressed that their legal team was incompetent enough that they didn’t bring this up as an issue before filing the lawsuit.

Re: Judge pares down artists' AI copyright lawsuit against Midjourney, Stability AI

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post #66

Can someone explain again how an ML system scanning and training on a copyrighted work is different from a highly skilled artist doing the same? There are artists that can study a painting for a few minutes and then recreate it from memory. There are artists who study a particular body of work so long that they can create more works indistinguishable in style. If an artist recreates a copyrighted work or creates a de…

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Re: Judge pares down artists' AI copyright lawsuit against Midjourney, Stability AI

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post #66

Can someone explain again how an ML system scanning and training on a copyrighted work is different from a highly skilled artist doing the same? There are artists that can study a painting for a few minutes and then recreate it from memory. There are artists who study a particular body of work so long that they can create more works indistinguishable in style. If an artist recreates a copyrighted work or creates a de…

The AI will not throw a molotowcocktail at you or hang you from a lamppost when it starves?

Re: Judge pares down artists' AI copyright lawsuit against Midjourney, Stability AI

#70
Hasn't this always been a precarious road? With say fair use for instance.

Not only that but I really wish we could just redo copyright to be more flexible but ultimately empowering the creator with conclusive licenses for others to use (like in AI, other creative work, streaming, etc.) and the creator is paid either monthly or per generated image/song.

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