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Re: 12ft.io has been banned by Vercel

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12ft.io never worked well for me. But archive.is generally always works.

12ft.io accepts money from websites that want to be blacklisted from their service.

Archive.is goes in captcha loops everytime I try to open it.

I've resorted to just using reader mode and bookmarklets that others have made.

Re: 12ft.io has been banned by Vercel

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> You may not use the services or Vercel's infrastructure for proxying, scraping I think that's pretty clear cut then.

Since the service alters the data before delivery, a strong argument can be made that it’s not a proxy per se. Say I did something similar with the goal of assisting vision-impaired users. That’s not just a proxy. It’s the weekend. He’ll talk to them on Monday.

> a strong argument can be made that it’s not a proxy per se.

I suppose, although lots of proxies make changes.

Either way, he should probably change the URL that it uses if he intends to argue it's not a proxy of any kind. ;) I still have a tab open with an article, and the URL is:

  https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww...

Re: 12ft.io has been banned by Vercel

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> Worst yet, they took down all my projects and confiscated all my domains Never put all your eggs in one basket. Keep your domains at one company. Your DNS with another. Hosting, a third. If you have activist-type projects that might attract the attention of powerful people or companies, keep those segregated from your more banal projects in their own isolated accounts. It sucks seeing people learn this the hard way…

I agree on hosting, but what additional advantage does separating your DNS from domain registry add?

If the person who is trying to get you shut down targets the DNS provider, and they decide "Yup, let's shut them down," if they also happen to be your registrar, you could end up with your domain name confiscated or locked up.

Re: 12ft.io has been banned by Vercel

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why you shouldn't combine your registrar with whatever services you have your domains pointed at. Domains should be delegated to services using a simple OAuth2 protocol. DomainConnect is technically close but very corporate and not good for self-hosted services.

> Domains should be delegated to services using a simple OAuth2 protocol Maybe i'm missing something, but why not do this using simple DNS? Nameservers at the registrar, or nameservers at some simple dns-only thing, and point hostnames to whatever you want at the moment.

The barrier to entry to using a domain name is way too high. Even just to use a domain with email you have to manually enter a bunch of DNS records. That should be a quick OAuth2 flow from your email provider that gives them a token they can use to set the records for you.

Re: 12ft.io has been banned by Vercel

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post #61

12ft.io never worked well for me. But archive.is generally always works.

12ft.io accepts money from websites that want to be blacklisted from their service. Archive.is goes in captcha loops everytime I try to open it. I've resorted to just using reader mode and bookmarklets that others have made.

I'm getting the same Captcha loops with Archive, although I had originally blamed my out-of-date browser. What alternative sites are there?

Re: 12ft.io has been banned by Vercel

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

12ft.io accepts money from websites that want to be blacklisted from their service. Archive.is goes in captcha loops everytime I try to open it. I've resorted to just using reader mode and bookmarklets that others have made.

I'm getting the same Captcha loops with Archive, although I had originally blamed my out-of-date browser. What alternative sites are there?

I actually figured out my problem after replying to your original comment. There's some issue with DNS over HTTPS, so you have to whitelist their sites in your settings, or turn off DNS over HTTPS (which I don't recommend).

To whitelist, on Firefox: Hamburger menu > settings > privacy and security > DNS over HTTPS > Manage exceptions > Add "archive.is", "archive.ph", and "archive.today"

If you don't want to do that, or it doesn't work, use Firefox's reader mode or the google cache bookmarklet I added below.

Google Cache Bookmarklet:

javascript:void(open("https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:" + document.location))

Re: 12ft.io has been banned by Vercel

#68
> confiscated all my domains

Please always separate registrar from DNS provider!

The reason is this:

* Registrars are your legal contract partner regarding the domain name.

* DNS providers are you technical partner for making something available under the domain name.

Re: 12ft.io has been banned by Vercel

#69

For an iOS/Mac alternative: I made a shortcut called Trebuchet that pulls up the archived version of articles and opens up in reader mode. https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/0df29c2c9aba44d48de1025fc8e...

Used to worked well, stopped recently for me. "Too many requests".
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