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Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by SanderNL »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #47
Aeolun wrote: post #32

But there's no pricing! How will I know if this could potentially save me money compared to AWS if I cannot make a sensible comparison until I contact sales (or probably after I contact sales).

Weird criticism, for anything involving CapEx it will always require an RFQ and quote. You're not buying a bag of peanuts and they will likely price it differently if you're buying 1x or 500x.

Why though? Quantity based pricing is not hard to express in a table.

What is so different about CapEx and a bag of peanuts that defies even providing an approximate range? Number of zeroes, no?

I don’t like it, but it is the norm sadly. It’s just a signal for “it’s expensive and if you even care about the number we don’t want to talk with you”.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by danpalmer »

steve1977 wrote: post #41
throw0101a wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They sell servers, but as a finished product. They sell rack-as-compute.[0] Their minimum order is one rack: You plug in power and network, connect to the built-in management software (API), and start spinning up VMs. [0] With built-in networking and storage.

So just hyperconverged infrastructure with a cute name?

“Just” is doing a lot of lifting in that sentence.

This achievement is clearly worth a lot to people.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by nickik »

pmontra wrote: post #42
cpursley wrote: post #3

Can somebody explain in a sentence or two what this actually is and what the benefits are?

The site is really hard to navigate. I eventually looked at the footer and found a link to the technical specifications https://oxide.computer/product/specifications They give an idea of the beast, especially the dimensions and weight Dimensions H x W x D 2354mm (92.7") x 600mm (23.7”) x 1060mm (41.8") Weight Up to ~2,518 lbs (~1,145 kg) It's a rack. BTW, they are following some no pictures policy. I found only a few…

Literally on the main page: https://oxide.computer/

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by otabdeveloper4 »

throw0101a wrote: post #27
fefe23 wrote: post #11

This is actually a pretty big deal. They sell servers, but as a finished product. Not as a cobbled together mess of third party stuff where the vendor keeps shrugging if there is an integration problem. They integrated it. It comes with all the features they expect you to want if you wanted to build your own cloud. Also, they wrote the software. And it's all open source. So no "sorry but the third party vendor droppe…

> They sell servers, but as a finished product. They sell rack-as-compute.[0] Their minimum order is one rack: You plug in power and network, connect to the built-in management software (API), and start spinning up VMs. [0] With built-in networking and storage.

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Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by nickik »

andrewstuart wrote: post #7
cpursley wrote: post #3

Can somebody explain in a sentence or two what this actually is and what the benefits are?

Weird there’s no mention of GPU at all when you’d think that’s what would prick up the ears of the hosting companies ….. stack a pile of GPUs in a rack, surely you can sell time on that. The Oxide machines seem to be aimed at 2020.

There is still a huge amount of stuff not using GPU and never will. Claiming that's only for 2020 is pure nonsense.

They are likely looking at future racks with GPU as well, but as a first product getting the basics right makes more sense.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by gizmo »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #47
Aeolun wrote: post #32

But there's no pricing! How will I know if this could potentially save me money compared to AWS if I cannot make a sensible comparison until I contact sales (or probably after I contact sales).

Weird criticism, for anything involving CapEx it will always require an RFQ and quote. You're not buying a bag of peanuts and they will likely price it differently if you're buying 1x or 500x.

In fairness, the blogpost argues that owning is more economical than renting. Everybody knows what cloud compute costs and if this more economical then maybe there should be some price indicator?

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by steve1977 »

deadfece wrote: post #49
XorNot wrote: post #2

Is this a big deal? I clicked on this skeptically, but...it actually seems like kind of a big deal? It is at least technically impressive, since it seems like they're eliminated a ton of datacenter pain points with the mechanical design.

It seems like they have managed to fit 32 1P servers in a 42U rack. That's pretty impressive, I have to admit. I don't think I've seen that level of density before.

32 1P servers in a 42U rack is impressive? If you use 1U servers, they would only use up 32 units, leaving with 10 units for storage and networking.

Also, I remember for example HP BladeCenter BL20p systems. There you would have up to 8 or 16 servers per 6 rack units IIRC. So about 56 to 112 servers in 42U.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPE_BladeSystem

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by pid-1 »

fefe23 wrote: post #11

This is actually a pretty big deal. They sell servers, but as a finished product. Not as a cobbled together mess of third party stuff where the vendor keeps shrugging if there is an integration problem. They integrated it. It comes with all the features they expect you to want if you wanted to build your own cloud. Also, they wrote the software. And it's all open source. So no "sorry but the third party vendor droppe…

While working in telecom data centers circa 2016 I've seen many single rack computers from Dell, IBM, HP, Huawei... Not sure that's a new ideia, ex. the open source bits.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by steve1977 »

dusted wrote: post #50

> core beliefs as a company: > Cloud computing is the future of all computing infrastructure. Oh god no! Anywhere I can donate to have this not happen? I want my computing on premise, preferably under my table. But well, if it _HAS_ to happen, 0xide is probably a lesser evil.

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