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Financial anxiety: The alarming side effect of inflation

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Re: Financial anxiety: The alarming side effect of inflation

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I visited Argentina earlier this year, and the psychological effects of years of inflation were very real. The exchange rate has gone from 5 pesos per USD, to 350 officially in the last 10 years. The unofficial rate is up to almost 900 pesos per USD. In March the unofficial rate was half of that, so the currency has lost 50% of its value in the last 6 months. Everybody prefers to be paid in dollars, and if you're get…

Lovely country of Argentina had 9 defaults in it's history. Maybe people and their parents, which certain % of them are part of government or economy. Should start taking little more responsilibity to understand how Finance works long term? Naa, let's default again, blame other things and not even understand how debt and modern monetary system works. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/photo-essays/2019-09-11/one-c...

Anything else come to mind in argentina's history that might be relevant?

Re: Financial anxiety: The alarming side effect of inflation

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Don't shoot the messenger. If anything, inflation and shrinkflation's effects on the average American are, in my opinion, understated; and Thomas Jefferson (if you've ever read his comments about inflation) would've been calling for hangings. Also, worth remembering, the median American income is $40,480 /yr., while median household is $74,580 /yr. Half of Americans make less than that per year. 20th percentile incom…

The BBC is a British institution though, and the British media has treated the effects of inflation here very differently to how the American media did, with endless front-page coverage of every last detail and prediction and problem whereas the American media downplayed the issue and how badly people were doing in day-to-day terms and instead told readers that inflation was some partisan Republican narrative.

Not sure if you are American or not, but at least from my prospective experience as someone in the US there seems to be a never ending glee from the media in predicting an imminent economic downturn and there were/are constant articles and stories about how difficult the economic situation is, how bad inflation is, and so on.

Maybe a Democratic Party partisan outlet would say it is just a Republican talking point but the average news media outlet I have seen has had something negative to say about the economy every week for the past few years.

Re: Financial anxiety: The alarming side effect of inflation

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Financial anxiety: Media - the primary instigator It's one thing to feel financially tight. It's another thing to have endless news articles and publications and posts warning of how bad the global economy is and how inflation is running out of control. Not only does this constant negative message directly cause stress on the viewers, but it can cause fear in business which can lead to "precautionary" retractions...…

Laying off then hiring should be a positive. Presumably the laid-off were your worst talent and workers, while the new hires are at least randomly distributed and should be selected towards the upper end of the talent range.

Again, that’s not how it works. You don’t lay off bad employees, you lay off randomly or lay off teams you no longer need or want. Layoffs are an opex reduction exercise, not a house cleaning.

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> What blows me away is that it appears to have no bearing to what people can actually afford? If the houses aren’t sitting on the market, people can afford them. I think what actually happened is people realized that housing was underpriced . Which is insane in terms of the raw numbers, but it’s the truth: lack of supply along with increasing numbers of buyers means that the market really is that hot. Sucks to be la…

I don't buy this at all. There are shoddy houses in my area that were sold in 2021 for $100k that are now on the market for $250k in 2023. We're in a bubble.

Looking at China's experience, we're in a situation where demand is increasingly coming from investments.

HouseCoin if you will.

Re: Financial anxiety: The alarming side effect of inflation

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Financial anxiety: Media - the primary instigator It's one thing to feel financially tight. It's another thing to have endless news articles and publications and posts warning of how bad the global economy is and how inflation is running out of control. Not only does this constant negative message directly cause stress on the viewers, but it can cause fear in business which can lead to "precautionary" retractions...…

> Financial anxiety: Media - the primary instigator

In my experience it's "how will i pay for rent and food the next two months".

Re: Financial anxiety: The alarming side effect of inflation

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I visited Argentina earlier this year, and the psychological effects of years of inflation were very real. The exchange rate has gone from 5 pesos per USD, to 350 officially in the last 10 years. The unofficial rate is up to almost 900 pesos per USD. In March the unofficial rate was half of that, so the currency has lost 50% of its value in the last 6 months. Everybody prefers to be paid in dollars, and if you're get…

It’s a tale as old as time unfortunately. Currencies have been debased for centuries. It won’t change until we have actual hard money that can’t be debased by leaders/bankers/politicians.

Sorry, is there any reason to expect money to revert to behaving like gold any time soon? Sounds suspiciously like crypto tripe. Why would that be beneficial anyway? The relative purchasing power of poor countries won't change without some serious shifting in resource distribution worldwide.

Re: Financial anxiety: The alarming side effect of inflation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lovely country of Argentina had 9 defaults in it's history. Maybe people and their parents, which certain % of them are part of government or economy. Should start taking little more responsilibity to understand how Finance works long term? Naa, let's default again, blame other things and not even understand how debt and modern monetary system works. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/photo-essays/2019-09-11/one-c...

Anything else come to mind in argentina's history that might be relevant?

no but I love how truth is dowvoted

Re: Financial anxiety: The alarming side effect of inflation

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I visited Argentina earlier this year, and the psychological effects of years of inflation were very real. The exchange rate has gone from 5 pesos per USD, to 350 officially in the last 10 years. The unofficial rate is up to almost 900 pesos per USD. In March the unofficial rate was half of that, so the currency has lost 50% of its value in the last 6 months. Everybody prefers to be paid in dollars, and if you're get…

It’s a tale as old as time unfortunately. Currencies have been debased for centuries. It won’t change until we have actual hard money that can’t be debased by leaders/bankers/politicians.

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Re: Financial anxiety: The alarming side effect of inflation

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Financial anxiety: Media - the primary instigator It's one thing to feel financially tight. It's another thing to have endless news articles and publications and posts warning of how bad the global economy is and how inflation is running out of control. Not only does this constant negative message directly cause stress on the viewers, but it can cause fear in business which can lead to "precautionary" retractions...…

I think it's great to check media sensationalism, but I think there's a massive disconnect between the impacts of inflation on highly paid software engineers, and most Americans. It's also a bit strange to see you view media as a completely separate entity from "decision-makers in companies". My experience has been that most decision makers in companies get most of their ideas entirely from the board and major invest…

As the child of blue-collar parents, I'd agree that there's a lot of price anxiety in their neck of the woods.

I'd also add that the statistics can be misleading: of the jobs added, many are in food services and front-line healthcare. For the former, the positions don't provide hours and pay poorly. Not a great area to be adding jobs in amidst high inflation and depressed lending.

Re: Financial anxiety: The alarming side effect of inflation

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I visited Argentina earlier this year, and the psychological effects of years of inflation were very real. The exchange rate has gone from 5 pesos per USD, to 350 officially in the last 10 years. The unofficial rate is up to almost 900 pesos per USD. In March the unofficial rate was half of that, so the currency has lost 50% of its value in the last 6 months. Everybody prefers to be paid in dollars, and if you're get…

It’s a tale as old as time unfortunately. Currencies have been debased for centuries. It won’t change until we have actual hard money that can’t be debased by leaders/bankers/politicians.

Hard as gold, perhaps?

That creates other issues. Volatility, for one.

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