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Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DkS1pkKpILY 1:06 on this video

Cheers - I misremembered that it was a Stanford researcher. Updated my comment.

Thanks for the recommendation. I definitely will be geeking out on that series now!

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For me, I find my sleep suffers because of what some describe as "revenge bedtime procrastination". When my job is shit (i.e. now), I'm more inclined to stay on the PC later doing things that bring me some level of joy, or play games to escape the mind spinning its wheels. I seem to more easily recognise that my job is unfulfilling because I'm staying up later or I'm dreading going to bed. Going to bed early for a go…

Quick advice - see if you can shift that to getting up earlier. You will probably spend the couple of hours in the morning in a way that sets you up for a better day vs staying up late sets you up for a bad tomorrow. I say this as an always "late" person who now tries to get up at 5 to work out and reflect, it's been very helpful.

A life changing thing for me was specifically scheduling time to do fun things in the morning before doing the things I have to do. If I wake up at six, I still don’t start my day until eight, and instead spend those two hours on things I otherwise would have done the night before. This broke the feeling of dreading mornings that lead to a negative spiral. Even if I know most of the day will be awful, if I can look forward to my me time in the morning I can convince myself to go to bed.

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Cheers - I misremembered that it was a Stanford researcher. Updated my comment.

Thanks for the recommendation. I definitely will be geeking out on that series now!

Glad you are interested. Keep in mind that his talk of supplements should be weighed with the knowledge that he is financially involved with supplement companies. It's not a secret, but worth some awareness.

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A key thing to note is that if you have sleep apnea, even if you think you're getting 7-8 hrs of sleep, you likely aren't. If you (or likely your partner) suspects you have apnea, talk to your doctor. Doing a sleep study/test and getting treatment for apnea will likely transform your life for the better.

Relieving my sleep apnea has been - by far - the biggest impact to my health and well-being. It's like a new lease on life. Just took a $60 retainer from Walgreens (this won't work for everyone). Memory, word recall, mood, energy - you name it: just much better than before. It was a slow process to get below what I would call normal (to say nothing of, "optimal"). It snuck up on me and I just never understood how ter…

For me it has been nasal strips. That and not sleeping on my back (where my jaw relaxes and closes my throat).

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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fighting with this problem for long time, so far my sleep got much better than previous months and years, lots of thanks to author for short and to the point plain English explanation, I like the writing style a lot. I learned a lot in just a minute, thats productive for me.

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I'd wager most people here who don't get enough sleep aren't doing so out of some sort of grindset mentality, but because they simply cannot. I find it very hard to fall asleep, nearly impossible to sleep in (a consequence of getting older?), and more interrupted sleep. I'm reticent to try drugs to enable sleep because I've heard that the sleep they provide is not true sleep.

If you don't like drugs, look up Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBT-I). It is kind of a collection of tricks, but it goes further than your basic sleep hygiene checklist. One thing it includes that helps many people if they can do it is the Spielman sleep-restriction protocol: https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medical-treatments/c/cognitiv...

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The article feels like it could have afforded a lot more depth. It's like it was designed as an HN prompt.

Is there something you find wrong with that? I generally find comments on HN to be thoughtful and people tend to invest some effort. There’s also a surprising amount of subject matter experts lurking until their subjects come up. A “prompt article” seems a decent way to get some of that going, no?

Then it should just be posted as a text post. No need for this to be posted more than once as well. I don't find low effort attention grabbing interesting or helpful.

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I'd wager most people here who don't get enough sleep aren't doing so out of some sort of grindset mentality, but because they simply cannot. I find it very hard to fall asleep, nearly impossible to sleep in (a consequence of getting older?), and more interrupted sleep. I'm reticent to try drugs to enable sleep because I've heard that the sleep they provide is not true sleep.

Are you physically tired when trying to sleep? Without a level of physical activity is next to impossible to achieve a good night sleep.

Yes, I've actually been more physically tired than usual lately (training/gym which never used to be part of my routine now are). Last week I was dead tired and had exercised for hours and I still had trouble sleeping.

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I'd wager most people here who don't get enough sleep aren't doing so out of some sort of grindset mentality, but because they simply cannot. I find it very hard to fall asleep, nearly impossible to sleep in (a consequence of getting older?), and more interrupted sleep. I'm reticent to try drugs to enable sleep because I've heard that the sleep they provide is not true sleep.

Physical labor. Or exercise. If you push yourself to the point where you're physically tired, you'll sleep like a rock. If it doesn't, you're either not pushing hard enough or you ought to see a doctor.

My issues sleeping have gotten worse in the time that I've started to seriously weight train. I am having nights where I'm so exhausted I could cry and still have a hard time getting steady sleep.

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It can be difficult, but it's also just a blip on the radar. I don't know if this is your first or second, but I found that everything was significantly easier the second time around. I didn't realize how much my wife and I had learned to handle things more efficiently and split the load better over time. You learn quickly. > I now fully understand why some people don't want to get kids. I don't know about that. I th…

I also heard that the second is easier, but it is still some drain so we decided not to get a second one. I think it really depends on 1) How much energy one has stored before getting the kid, and 2) How easy/difficult the kid could be. It's definitely not just a few months. It has been 3 years for me and I don't really think it's going to end soon. Again this is just personal, not an average experience.

Difference between parental experience can be wild.

Sometimes up to literal survivorship bias talk from other parents; can be mildly annoying but ultimately I always feel happy for them and their kid(s) that they just don’t seem to (want to?) really know better. Again, good for them - and us all - lest we’d have gone extinct long time ago ;)

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