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Narges Mohammadi wins 2023 Nobel Peace Prize

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Re: Narges Mohammadi wins 2023 Nobel Peace Prize

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Post by michaeltimo »

csomar wrote: post #29
michaeltimo wrote: post #4

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"Since World War II, the Peace Prize has principally been awarded to honour efforts in four main areas: arms control and disarmament, peace negotiation, democracy and human rights, and work aimed at creating a better organized and more peaceful world. In the 21st century the Nobel Committee has embraced efforts to limit the harm done by man-made climate change and threats to the environment as relevant to the Peace P…

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The propaganda of this barbaric Iranian regime is active everywhere, but the truth cannot be covered with words like the "Western Media", so try other things.

This is also not the first time that the child-killing and anti-women regime of Iran commits such crimes. About a year ago, Mehsa Amini was killed by police forces for the same crime of insufficient hijab. In the revolutionary demonstrations after that, about 500 more people were killed, among them Nika Shakarami [1] by the "impact of a hard object" and 9-year-old Kian Pirfalak [2] by the shootings by the security forces. Other examples of innocent people killed can be found in the links in these wikipedia pages.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Nika_Shakarami

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Kian_Pirfalak

Re: Narges Mohammadi wins 2023 Nobel Peace Prize

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Post by lettergram »

archon1410 wrote: post #7

I feel the Nobel prize was less for fighting for women's rights, and more for fighting against an anti-American, anti-Western government. For some reason, I don't see the award ever going to a rights activist fighting against the Saudi, Pakistani, or any other American-allied regimes. I of course don't ever see it going to someone fighting against the American regime itself, and its mass surveillance and war crimes,…

To be fair, Obama was granted a Nobel peace prize almost as soon as he got in office (just for being in office)… it was also right before continuing the drone assassination campaign, including the extra judicial killing of US citizens without trial

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Aw...

I’ve always views the Nobel peace prize as a political body. Designed to highlight and reward people of a certain persuasion.

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Post by srean »

perihelions wrote: post #55
willcipriano wrote: post #32

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2 wars when he was sworn in, 7 when he left. I'm pretty sure he is the peace prize recipient who started the most wars.

- "I'm pretty sure he is the peace prize recipient who started the most wars" Henry Kissinger, 1973? edit: I think Wilson (1919 Nobel; 1913-1921 presidency) is also a contender, if anyone has the patience/stamina to count all his conflicts and classify them. (I.e. what counts as "starting a war" and what's better described as a continuation of an existing conflict). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Woodrow…

I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize -- Steven Wright

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Post by imjonse »

wizerdrobe wrote: post #58
sneak wrote: post #42

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They gave the Nobel Peace Prize to a US president who had ordered so many drone strikes that even by the US's own admission, hundreds of children were slaughtered. It's pretty farcical.

By virtue of the President’s role of Commander in Chief and that Doctor’s Without Borders as an organization has received the prize, it can be said that this President is the first to bomb another Nobel recipient after an attack on a MSF hospital. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike

While literary Nobel prize winners may have their feuds, peace prize winners' disagreements can get much more serious.

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Post by shmde »

0xDEF wrote: post #50
sneak wrote: post #42

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They gave the Nobel Peace Prize to a US president who had ordered so many drone strikes that even by the US's own admission, hundreds of children were slaughtered. It's pretty farcical.

>even by the US's own admission, hundreds of children were slaughtered Did the US really admit that or was it something that was exposed by NGOs and investigators?

Head of the country Barack Obama literally apologized for bombing the Kunduz hospital ? Will anything change if they admitted to or not ?

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Post by LindeBuzoGray »

imjonse wrote: post #59
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #49

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>For some reason, I don't see the award ever going to a rights activist fighting against the Saudi, Pakistani, or any other American-allied regimes. There have been a few, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasser_Arafat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Ressa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigoberta_Mench%C3%BA

To be fair, Mandela did not get it while imprisoned and while the US and the UK were tacit supporters of the Apartheid regime. And Maria Ressa seems anti-Duterte, and pro-US if I read correctly.

Right, Mandela got it when he was being conciliatory to the government and its Western support, with other ANC elements being less so.

The same with Arafat - he was conciliatory to Israel and its western support at Oslo, with Hamas and the PFLP being less so.

Both were not fighting when.they got the prize, but being conciliatory.

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Post by darkoob12 »

csomar wrote: post #29
michaeltimo wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Since World War II, the Peace Prize has principally been awarded to honour efforts in four main areas: arms control and disarmament, peace negotiation, democracy and human rights, and work aimed at creating a better organized and more peaceful world. In the 21st century the Nobel Committee has embraced efforts to limit the harm done by man-made climate change and threats to the environment as relevant to the Peace P…

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The footage is edited and the key seconds are taken out. There were dozens of witnesses and what you are doing is called whataboutism.

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

imjonse wrote: post #59
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>For some reason, I don't see the award ever going to a rights activist fighting against the Saudi, Pakistani, or any other American-allied regimes. There have been a few, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasser_Arafat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Ressa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigoberta_Mench%C3%BA

To be fair, Mandela did not get it while imprisoned and while the US and the UK were tacit supporters of the Apartheid regime. And Maria Ressa seems anti-Duterte, and pro-US if I read correctly.

>Mandela did not get it while imprisoned and while the US and the UK were tacit supporters of the Apartheid regime

True

>Maria Ressa seems anti-Duterte, and pro-US if I read correctly

Duterte is/was a Trump style figure in a country that houses U.S military bases. If Pakistan counts then the Philippines must count as well.

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Post by HumanWithRights »

Garbleflorp wrote: post #54

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It is nonsensical to declare human rights under the umbrella of a religion. Human Rights by their definition apply to all humans no matter which, if any, religion they might have chosen to follow. A group of muslims does not get to unilaterally declare the basic rights of every human. The UN is the place to do that and they did. The Cairo Declaration is the reactionary attempt by some muslim countries to deny some basic human rights to their own people. It's a perverse twisting of the original idea.
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