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Weird A.I. Yankovic: a cursed deep dive into the world of voice cloning

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Re: Weird A.I. Yankovic: a cursed deep dive into the world of voice cloning

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Post by mock-possum »

darkerside wrote: post #27
dwringer wrote: post #8

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I don't know what I was expecting but that isn't Hurt, it's Surfin' USA with Hurt's lyrics that sound extremely jittery and grainy. I'm curious though if some AI soon could in fact synthesize the Beach Boys' style with the actual chords and melody from the NIN song, possibly with some of the pathos of Johnny Cash as well.

Yeah, I hate it to the point of being personally offended. It has nothing to do with Johnny Cash's rendition. I'd probably feel a bit better, but not much, if it were advertised as a NIN mashup.

Yeah that’s kind of the theme of the YouTube channel - I think it’s hilarious honestly, but maybe you have to go into it knowing what to expect.

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Post by tetris11 »

civilitty wrote: post #47
ssalka wrote: post #13

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My favorite is the Mr. Krabs cover of "Billie Jean" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkQ-44PvTs8

Mr Krabs rapping Lose Yourself by Eminem [1] is all the evidence I've ever needed that Clancy Brown should have been a rapper. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7N6jOziN4E

Those high notes really kind of overflow to baritone there

Re: Weird A.I. Yankovic: a cursed deep dive into the world of voice cloning

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Post by b112 »

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #46
dylan604 wrote: post #40

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> and their voicework is owned by their clients who may not be as incentivised in protecting the VO. The work product produced by their voice for fulfilling the contract is owned. No corp owns someone else's voice.

Porperty is a bundle of rights, and often hard to pin down. In the case of voices, if a company owns enough of your data to train a good simulacrum, and they have the right to do it, then they kind of do own your voice -- or more precisely, a damn good substitute.

Copyright is complex. And artist's rights are outside of copyright, in some respects. An example.. in the past, painters have had their works bought, and then hung in unfavourable conditions. Or in places/locations, which reflect poorly upon the work of art.

Artists have sued, and won, to have artwork moved, shown differently, or force-sold back to the artist.

Now, everything you say is copyright... you. At least in my legal jurisdiction! Even my image is, in Quebec! Yes, that includes if you take my picture outside.

So what of one's voice? And if you don't have a real agreement, to use that voice in any way desired. And then you use that voice to.. I don't know, advocate for terrorists or something weird.

What then?

I don't think it's completely clearcut, and I think there will be changes, decisions on this going down the road.

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Post by dylan604 »

satvikpendem wrote: post #59
dylan604 wrote: post #56

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I always assumed that book to be rather short since it just needs to be a number of sandwiches eaten. 100 books/year. That's an impressive feat regardless the number of pages. Are these downloaded ebooks or physical printed copies of books?

It's mostly audiobooks, I have some ePubs that don't have audiobooks anywhere, such as many Japanese light novel fan (or official) translations into English for example. I can get through them as I can understand audio faster than I can read text, as I play back at 3 to 5x speed.

what's your retention/comprehension of the content at those speeds? i find that those speeds allows me to understand the concept as it's whizzing by, but the retention of it is not good. everything i've ever been taught and personal experience about long term retention all say speed is not the most conducive.

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Post by joenot443 »

simonw wrote: post #2

I did not know about this: "The center of the A.I. cover songs community is a massive 500,000+ member Discord called A.I. Hub, where members trade new tips, tools, techniques, and links to their original and cover songs."

Something I think we're slowly coming to terms with is that the current generation of techies (the ones who can afford to spend hours upon hours tweaking models and sharing results) really prefer Discord over our Web 2.0 forum type communities like this one. Even reddit on, which is lagging in popularity amongst Gen-Z when compared to Discord or TikTok, you can immediately tell upon reading /r/LocalLLMs that a really big chunk of this community are underaged. To be clear, I think this is a good thing!

There was a generation that preferred mailing lists. There was a generation that preferred IRC and BBS, and "my" generation which likes forums and lengthy comment threads. One would be naiive to think this style (the one we're engaging in here) would last forever.

There are definitely very real criticisms of Discord, searchability and discoverability being the most common, but at this point I think the die has been cast. Young people have made their choice.

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Post by dylan604 »

b112 wrote: post #63
Jeff_Brown wrote: post #46

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Porperty is a bundle of rights, and often hard to pin down. In the case of voices, if a company owns enough of your data to train a good simulacrum, and they have the right to do it, then they kind of do own your voice -- or more precisely, a damn good substitute.

Copyright is complex. And artist's rights are outside of copyright, in some respects. An example.. in the past, painters have had their works bought, and then hung in unfavourable conditions. Or in places/locations, which reflect poorly upon the work of art. Artists have sued, and won, to have artwork moved, shown differently, or force-sold back to the artist. Now, everything you say is copyright... you. At least in…

I pay little attention to SAG contracts, but after the Writer's Guild strike, I'd be expecting SAG to follow suit with major asks to protect its members from AI if they have not already covered it.

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Post by tr33house »

jonluca wrote: post #20
mecredis wrote: post #3

It's kind of wild that these tools just transfer a copy of these models every time they're spun up (whether it's to a Google Colab notebook or a local machine.) This must mean Hugging Face's bandwidth bill must be crazy, or am I missing something (maybe they have a peering agreement? heavily caching things?)

You can do a lot of these fully locally with things like RVC web ui or https://tryreplay.io/

wish they had something for Linux

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Post by throwaway290 »

LordDragonfang wrote: post #41
evan_ wrote: post #37

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more accurate to say that, while 500,000 people joined the discord by clicking a link, some much, much smaller number are actually active on any sort of a regular basis

Yeah, one of the "worst" (good for metrics, bad for legibility) parts of the trend of moving to discord for any sort of online community is that you have to "join" the community to even view any of the resources ensconced within. Meaning it's poorly indexed (discord search is okay, but not great) and not available at all to external crawlers.

If this community was available for crawling then LLM would crawl it and there would be no value in participating in the community because you can just ask the LLM about all that, no?

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Post by darkerside »

mock-possum wrote: post #61
darkerside wrote: post #27

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Yeah, I hate it to the point of being personally offended. It has nothing to do with Johnny Cash's rendition. I'd probably feel a bit better, but not much, if it were advertised as a NIN mashup.

Yeah that’s kind of the theme of the YouTube channel - I think it’s hilarious honestly, but maybe you have to go into it knowing what to expect.

Yeah, based on the parent, and the genius of the musicians involved, I was expecting something more than the sum of its parts. Hurt is an incredibly powerful song, and the Cash rendition imbues it with another beautiful layer.

As a joke, I can see it being funny, but it was a jarring way to experience it.

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Post by minimaxir »

dylan604 wrote: post #66
b112 wrote: post #63

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Copyright is complex. And artist's rights are outside of copyright, in some respects. An example.. in the past, painters have had their works bought, and then hung in unfavourable conditions. Or in places/locations, which reflect poorly upon the work of art. Artists have sued, and won, to have artwork moved, shown differently, or force-sold back to the artist. Now, everything you say is copyright... you. At least in…

I pay little attention to SAG contracts, but after the Writer's Guild strike, I'd be expecting SAG to follow suit with major asks to protect its members from AI if they have not already covered it.

The current standard is the NAVA AI Rider: https://navavoices.org/2023/01/23/artificial-intelligence-ri...

NAVA also has guidelines for protection against AI abuse: https://navavoices.org/synth-ai/

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