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Re: Nomnoml

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Post by vidarh »

totetsu wrote: post #36
sBqQu3U0wH wrote: post #27

These tools show up from time to time here, and I can appreciate the technical side of things and effort put into building the tool. However, I cannot imagine using something like this in practice - either at work or for my own uses. It's so much easier just to select, drag and drop graphical elements instead of spending time learning a specific markup language and typing everything out, hoping that the elements will…

I got quite far asking an LLM to type it out for me. and I got some nice diagrams to visualize the project I was thinking about.

GPT4 was surprisingly good at generating dot (Graphviz) files when I tried, and even managed to do reasonable visual layout of nodes (it's an interesting test, both because reasoning about visual constraints in text is tricky and because good diagram layout algorithms are complex)

Re: Nomnoml

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Post by darkwater »

scbrg wrote: post #57
blagie wrote: post #51

The language is very, very nice. However, if I ran into this incidentally (not posted to HN for review), I would never use this. I'd see the lack of a github link on the top right, and assume it's a some kind of startup making some prototype hosted tool. The only way to find out this is open-source is to click "about," read to the third paragraph, see github mentioned, click through the link, and click on the license…

> However, if I ran into this incidentally (not posted to HN for review), I would never use this. I'd see the lack of a github link on the top right, and assume it's a some kind of startup making some prototype hosted tool. Yeah, it's absolutely horrible when the GitHub link is in the bottom right rather than the top right. Completely unforgivable. Geez. Do (Free|Net|Open)BSD and GNU tools qualify as open source? No…

I think that the main complaint was a lack of prominence to what the thing actually is, and its license.

Re: Nomnoml

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Post by f1shy »

scbrg wrote: post #57
blagie wrote: post #51

The language is very, very nice. However, if I ran into this incidentally (not posted to HN for review), I would never use this. I'd see the lack of a github link on the top right, and assume it's a some kind of startup making some prototype hosted tool. The only way to find out this is open-source is to click "about," read to the third paragraph, see github mentioned, click through the link, and click on the license…

> However, if I ran into this incidentally (not posted to HN for review), I would never use this. I'd see the lack of a github link on the top right, and assume it's a some kind of startup making some prototype hosted tool. Yeah, it's absolutely horrible when the GitHub link is in the bottom right rather than the top right. Completely unforgivable. Geez. Do (Free|Net|Open)BSD and GNU tools qualify as open source? No…

Was only a feedback.

Re: Nomnoml

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Post by ahartmetz »

blagie wrote: post #51

The language is very, very nice. However, if I ran into this incidentally (not posted to HN for review), I would never use this. I'd see the lack of a github link on the top right, and assume it's a some kind of startup making some prototype hosted tool. The only way to find out this is open-source is to click "about," read to the third paragraph, see github mentioned, click through the link, and click on the license…

I dunno, is it even still ...allowed... to have Free / Open Source software that does not live on GitHub? Because that exists. Though admittedly it's usually mirrored on GitHub.

Re: Nomnoml

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Post by f1shy »

mactavish88 wrote: post #4

Very cool! It blows my mind though how the moment that someone offers free stuff, the first comments are people asking for more free stuff. If I wasn't paid to work full time on open source software, I'd think very carefully about whether to do any open source work nowadays.

I see those requests as gratuitous feedback and ideas that could be useful. I‘m glad to have more requests. By no means I‘m going to implement them, but maybe some request triggers useful ideas.

Re: Nomnoml

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Post by detectivestory »

sBqQu3U0wH wrote: post #27

These tools show up from time to time here, and I can appreciate the technical side of things and effort put into building the tool. However, I cannot imagine using something like this in practice - either at work or for my own uses. It's so much easier just to select, drag and drop graphical elements instead of spending time learning a specific markup language and typing everything out, hoping that the elements will…

I think this would work really well with the right vim plugin.

Re: Nomnoml

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Post by wolletd »

mactavish88 wrote: post #17
thangngoc89 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that the point of posting/ commenting on HN? So that we can discuss about the post? I see something on HN and after checking it, I would definitely comment on HN first.

As someone who has been working on open source software for 5 years now, GitHub issues are my primary source of truth for what users want and how to go about prioritizing features. If people can’t be bothered to log an issue or thumbs-up/comment on an existing one, it can’t be such an important thing to them.

First you complain that people are asking for more free stuff, then you complain that they are asking in the wrong place?

Whats your point? Aren't people allowed to discuss stuff other people share with them on the internet?

Re: Nomnoml

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Post by withinboredom »

hahn-kev wrote: post #55
withinboredom wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use mermaidjs for basically everything documentation related. It works in GitHub ... confluence ... everywhere. This looks like a much prettier version of that.

Yeah, for me this is why nothing else can compete. If there's native support in GitHub it's hard to see anything else as better without that feature.

To me, that’s also a problem. It locks out competitors (like this tool). It’d be great if they simply allowed installing arbitrary renderers on an org (basically, given a fenced input, output an image or formatted text).

Re: Nomnoml

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Post by modernpink »

sBqQu3U0wH wrote: post #27

These tools show up from time to time here, and I can appreciate the technical side of things and effort put into building the tool. However, I cannot imagine using something like this in practice - either at work or for my own uses. It's so much easier just to select, drag and drop graphical elements instead of spending time learning a specific markup language and typing everything out, hoping that the elements will…

Similarly, I couldn't imagine not having your diagrams as code, enabling easier versioning, updating and collaboration over the UI created ones.

Re: Nomnoml

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Post by h0l0cube »

saberience wrote: post #32

I have a hard time understanding why any engineering team I've ever worked on would use this. Can someone sell this idea to me? Seems like a waste of time when you can knock up fast and easier to understand diagrams with something like Miro which also can be done in a multi-user environment.

These mark up languages like PlantUML/Mermaid are diffable, mergeable, and can sit there in the repo right next to the code it's designing for. Many IDEs and cloud repositories support displaying them. Not sure if that's the case for nomnoml though.
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