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Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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Post by ltbarcly3 »

vardump wrote: post #51
ltbarcly3 wrote: post #46

They (Phoronix) are benchmarking the RP5 against an Orange Pi 5. There is also an Orange Pi 5 Plus, which adds a ton of stuff. If you don't need the Raspberry Pi specifically for some reason, the Orange Pi Plus is faster and has way more features, and to me is very interesting for a lot of use cases. Plus you can buy them without fighting with scalpers or being limited to buying 1. http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWa…

Two words: software support.

What software are you concerned about? I'm running Debian and I can apt-install anything in the arm repositories, which is basically everything. Neither the RP5 nor the rk3588 used on the Orange Pi have everything supported in mainline kernels, but in a year or so both probably will.

Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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Post by justinlloyd »

colordrops wrote: post #12
liminalsunset wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with putting USB-C video on there is that USB-C is DisplayPort, and there's a good chance for various reasons (last time it was said that at least historically, the Raspberry Pi is a cut down version of a Broadcom chip that was used in a set top box or media player or something) the SoC only has an HDMI interface block on it and not a DisplayPort one. Thus, supporting this would require the addition of at…

Would love to use a Pi with my portable monitor, but no idea how without this.

Siig and a few others make a HDMI to USB-C converter for around $50.

Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #61
vardump wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two words: software support.

What software are you concerned about? I'm running Debian and I can apt-install anything in the arm repositories, which is basically everything. Neither the RP5 nor the rk3588 used on the Orange Pi have everything supported in mainline kernels, but in a year or so both probably will.

OS support, yes; the ARM ecosystem is overall a trash fire in terms of being able to use mainline Linux. Even Pis don't actually have a good track record with actual mainline Linux, but they're popular enough that their downstream patches are actually maintained so you can keep using current kernels; most boards get whatever buggy kernel the vendor drops when it ships and then nothing. Now AIUI Orange Pis do actually have a decent track record for upstream kernel support? So that might be fine in this case, but I deeply sympathize with people not wanting to figure it out and just going with the name brand that they know will get supported.

Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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Post by Larrikin »

fragmede wrote: post #39
Larrikin wrote: post #33

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In any situation where I would want to use a Pi with a display instead off SSH into it, I'd always prefer the option of having the ability to run two screens over one. The mini HDMI port is only an annoyance if you buy one, but had an old one with a regular HDMI port and realize you needed to buy a couple extra things once. Its not like a a USB-C only Macbook where you might actually be bringing it to various differe…

The versatility of the Pi is part of its appeal. Driving projectors unexpectedly is just one of many use cases for it that aren't immediately obvious.

What is the imagined use case where you have a Pi in your bag (for some reason), the USB-C power plug that rated to run it, a mouse and keyboard, an Ethernet cable, want to display the Pi, refuse to SSH into it, and didn't bring one of the two cables you have to output the display? Maybe a found Pi sensor in a war zone that has been logging environmental data? I'm struggling for another scenario.

Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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Post by zejn »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #36
potwinkle wrote: post #6

https://www.phoronix.com/review/raspberry-pi-5-benchmarks/6 Phoronix has a review too. As fast as the the Orange Pi 5, which is an 8-core.

The Orange Pi 5/5Plus use rk3588 cpu, which is big.little, and the 4 A76 cores are about 3x faster than the 4 A55 cores. So `sysbench --threads=4 cpu run` gives 10030.46 events/s, `sysbench --threads=8 cpu run` only increases it to 13578.29. Which is to say the extra 4 cores are nice, and probably help keep power consumption down, but they are very slow compared to the performance cores. The Orange Pi 5 / 5Plus board…

RPi5 has PCIe x1 too ..

Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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Post by fragmede »

Larrikin wrote: post #65
fragmede wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The versatility of the Pi is part of its appeal. Driving projectors unexpectedly is just one of many use cases for it that aren't immediately obvious.

What is the imagined use case where you have a Pi in your bag (for some reason), the USB-C power plug that rated to run it, a mouse and keyboard, an Ethernet cable, want to display the Pi, refuse to SSH into it, and didn't bring one of the two cables you have to output the display? Maybe a found Pi sensor in a war zone that has been logging environmental data? I'm struggling for another scenario.

burning man?

Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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Post by erickj »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #57

It quotes usb-c 5v@5A. I don't think I've ever seen a device that could provide 5V@5A over usb, is this a thing? It seems like this is going to really limit the flexibility of powering this.

USB-C form factor plus USB-PD (power delivery) is rated up to 100W. 5V @5amps is the base power level for PD

https://www.asme.org/topics-resources/content/explore-the-ba...

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