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> a great stopper knot (Oysterman’s Stopper Knot) Also known as the Ashley stopper knot! I've started keeping a short length of paracord on my desk to practice knots during video calls. It makes a great fidget toy. The Ashley stopper is what I've been tying this week and it's such a gem (but a little harder to untie than I'd like). ABOK is the classic. But I was surprised to learn recently that it's not the final wor…
I did this during COVID lockdowns (I never did get locked-down, being medical staff, but I had plenty of boring moments with nothing to do otherwise). I wound up learning 20, and one of the GPs challenged me to tie them all blind-fold. Which I did, and won a metre of liquorice!
The Ashley Book of Knots (1944)
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#62The Marlinspike hitch is my favorite :) If you stick anything functioning as a marlinspike in there (stick, screwdriver, etc.), you get a great handle for pulling in tension. If you put a hook in there, you have a hitch onto the hook that can be released by slipping it off (and the whole knot collapses in on itself). If you stick the tag end one way instead, you end up with a great stopper knot (Oysterman’s Stopper K…
> a great stopper knot (Oysterman’s Stopper Knot) Also known as the Ashley stopper knot! I've started keeping a short length of paracord on my desk to practice knots during video calls. It makes a great fidget toy. The Ashley stopper is what I've been tying this week and it's such a gem (but a little harder to untie than I'd like). ABOK is the classic. But I was surprised to learn recently that it's not the final wor…
This is literally what I started doing like 6 months ago, and I went from knowing only how to tie my shoes to having a great repertoire of knots. It’s great to have a couple hanks of paracord in the car now to tie stuff down, and more versatile (and safer) than the bungee straps.
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#63Knots are shared a lot here. There are sites listing hundreds of them each with its own strengths and weaknesses and use cases. But is there any science/math to them? For example, if I want to have not with specific set of features, is there something like an algorithm to build that knot from scratch?
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#64I like history, but I don't often encounter old technology with that level of modern relevance, so it really seems like something special. I'm surprised they don't make a bigger deal about learning them, like some people do about cursive.
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I did this during COVID lockdowns (I never did get locked-down, being medical staff, but I had plenty of boring moments with nothing to do otherwise). I wound up learning 20, and one of the GPs challenged me to tie them all blind-fold. Which I did, and won a metre of liquorice!
How did you tie the liquorice though?
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#66Know knots or tie lots! Knowing a few different knots for a variety of situations comes in handy. The right knot holds properly and can usually be undone when needed without having to cut it out. If you're starting out then the square knot, two half hitches, taught line hitch, clove hitch, and bowline cover most use cases. And, yes, those are among the basic ones taught to Scouts.
And of course the double slipped square knot. I always have trouble with it, the right over left and left over right steps slow me down trying to make sure I don't accidentally tie a granny. But once it's done it's really obvious to anyone how to untie it since it's a standard shoelace bow.
I think one of the coolest things is that most knots have a really obvious slipped version, once you know the base knot you can make sure it never binds on you.
I always hear the clove hitch is not the greatest though, so I'm never sure what to do. Gliepnir is my favorite replacement, but it's not easy to remember.
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I would suggest adding the sheet bend (ABOK #1) to that list: if you ever end up not having enough rope, you will want to be able to join multiple sections together.
Yea, another good Scout knot. While a square knot can do the same it can capsize under tension!
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#68I have problems with knots, I am terrible with them, despite having some books. I think what I really need is a flowchart (what are you tying to what else? what kind of cordage do you have? what kind on the other end, if applicable?) with a list of knots at one end, with their various strengths and weaknesses. The jargon is a bit of an issue, too.
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You can make due with only a couple of good knots. Very short list: the reef knot (square knot, avoid the granny version) and the alpine butterfly (don't use reef knot for joining two ropes, i.e. a "bend"). The alpine butterfly is more useful to know than the bowline, IMHO. If you want to expand your list a little, here are some additional useful ones: double fisherman's, adjustable grip hitch, sheet bend, trucker's…
Right, but this isn't a what question, it's a when to do what question. I might know a knot, but I don't know when to use that knot and when it ought to be avoided. That's what I am getting at. Even under the "bend" page in Wikipedia, sometimes the knots are merely described.
For non-critical use(In my limited experience, some of my choices are as much about ease of tying as actually picking the right one, some of these are things I've only used once or twice or never used for anything important):
If you want to tie two ropes together, use a sheet bend. or a double for more security, or the slipped version to be able to undo it. Add a stoper knot for even more security.
If you want to make a loop in the middle of a rope, alpine butterfly.
If you want to adjust tension, tautline hitch.
If you are tying thin spectra cord, or making a permanent attachment between thin cord and something else, try a uni-knot. Note that it's not actually considered the standard for tying to carabiners, but I use it sometimes(For non climbing purposes).
If you are tying a bundle together, try gliepnir or a standard shoelace knot, or a clove hitch.
If you are tying a rope to a fixed pole, try a clove hitch. It's not perfectly secure. Maybe try gliepnir too. Honestly bundles and hitches are the two uses I'm least sure of. There are apparently better things than the clove hitch, but it's easy and good enough probably.
If you want to tie something you can undo really, really fast, use a highwayman's hitch.
If you want to tie something someone else might need to untie, shoelace knot which is a doubly slipped square knot, it advertises visually that it's meant to untie.
Might want to just use a regular overhand though, the Ashley stopper is hard to undo.
If you want to cause a real nightmare for anyone untying something, or remove unwanted fingers by circulation loss, constrictor knot.
If you want to make the end of a rope not go through a hole, Ashley stopper. You can also use this, or just a simple overhand, to keep another knot from slipping.
If you want to do something involving climbing, do not listen to me, I know nothing about it.
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#70My understanding is that a lot of "knot culture" developed during the Nantucket whaling days. There were knots before, of course, but the variety and intricacy exploded. (a bit of a simplification of course, there are lots of cool Celtic knots and whatnot, too) It was a somewhat special time, where you had a lot of relatively well-paid capable people stuck on a boat with nothing to do for sometimes weeks on end. Enco…