iOS 17 Is a Prude • Hacker News Board

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

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Post by lucb1e » Sat, Sep 23, 2023, 6:34 PM UTC

Clent wrote: post #60

lucb1e wrote: post #59

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Computers do a lot of if-then. If it detects cat pictures, what evil thing is it going to do? Label it as a photo of a pet (I don't even know, I don't use a scanning phone)? If it detects nudity, what kind of unwanted behavior might it exhibit then, report to legal guardians? Not the picture itself but even just that the device is being used for that. I can see how this scanning+warning is more creepy than scanning+l…

Your issue is of trust. Do you use an Apple device? I can see why non-Apple users lack trust. Apple would be eviscerated if they were doing more than they claimed. Other devices makers are excused for poor behavior. Often with the tech-bro response that is some flavor of "install a custom OS, bro!"

Not only trust, also just knowing what the system does above board. The documentation can say exactly what it does, but who reads that? At least not until they get a "hey that's an interesting pic you took there" pop up

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

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Post by xenadu02 » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 6:46 PM UTC

attqqq wrote: post #48

xenadu02 wrote: post #44

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This is an opt-in feature. You can enable it for yourself. It is also available as a parental control for your kid's devices. I think that is 100% appropriate. I don't want to see dick pic spam. Actually I don't want anyone to send me naked pictures. Previously it was up to every messaging app to figure this out themselves. Now they can use the Sensitive Content Analysis framework. It also means they don't need to gi…

This is how they sold it: of course, nobody wants to see unsolicited dick pics. Good framing, they obviously pay their marketing department very well. Yet, consider how many unsolicited dick pics you actually see in a day, week, or month- and if sometimes blocking a % of them is worth permanently ceding more privacy to Apple. If you’re seeing so many dick pics to where this is positive trade off for you, you need to…

> permanently ceding more privacy to Apple

How is on-device image classification "ceding more privacy"? Because an OS vendor provided it?

> If you’re seeing so many [...] you need to reflect on how you’re interacting with the web

Are you seriously claiming not to understand the concept of SPAM and info leaks?

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

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Post by TheHappyOddish » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 6:50 AM UTC

mfer wrote: post #16

zeratax wrote: post #11

optional things like this are fine. preventing me from joining e.g. NSFW discord servers wholesale is not imo. As an adult I should be able to use my phone however I want

> as an adult You touch on an interesting element. A lot of iPhone users are kids. Even young kids. Logged in with their parents account. Not trying to justify what’s going on. Just add context

And this is the parents responsibility to not share passwords and ensure device usage is appropriate.

A lot of kitchen users are kids, it's the parents responsibility to ensure they're supervised or that the sharp knives are put away out of reach.

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

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Post by TheHappyOddish » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 6:51 AM UTC

paulmd wrote: post #43

CharlesW wrote: post #18

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> Does that sort of content show up often for people who would not prefer it and don't go looking for it? Oh yes. https://www.psypost.org/2020/08/new-research-uncovers-womens... .

> Only 26% of women reported having a positive reaction. I would consider that surprisingly high lol. 1 in 4 women is happy about receiving unsolicited dick pics, really?

What percentage of guys do you think would feel positively about getting boob pictures?

I think straight people generally like the genitals of the opposite gender, that's not really surprising to me.