Why We're Pulling Our Recommendation of Wyze Security Cameras

Post by jszymborski » Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 5:06 PM UTC

rimunroe wrote: post #52

jszymborski wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could, however, imagine you buying a "$BRAND hub" for your "$BRAND camera" and other $BRAND IoT that ostensibly set-ups a tailscale kinda thing you can access via the $BRAND App, all while not touching the cloud. It's ostensibly the same UX as the current cloud set-up, only without the operational costs of running a cloud service.

> I could, however, imagine you buying a "$BRAND hub" for your "$BRAND camera" and other $BRAND IoT that ostensibly set-ups a tailscale kinda thing you can access via the $BRAND App, all while not touching the cloud. I'm confused by the use of the word "ostensibly" there. Do you mean that the makers would claim that it would set up a tailscale kinda thing for you while doing something completely different to avoid th…

Post by asdff » Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 5:12 PM UTC

cortesoft wrote: post #6

drunner wrote: post #2

I mean, any security camera that does anything with the cloud should never make it onto a recommendation list in the first place. I'm not sure if the product exists, but something that replicates a homemade setup would be amazing. Think of a bundled camera(s) + raspberry pi + 1tb backup drive or whatever that you can only access over your own dedicated personal wireguard vpn (or tailscale, something like that), but s…

The market for a product that requires the buyer to setup a VPN is not going to be very large. You seriously overestimate the average tech competence of people. It needs to be something you just plug in and it works.

Post by asdff » Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 5:14 PM UTC

bootsmann wrote: post #4

drunner wrote: post #2

I mean, any security camera that does anything with the cloud should never make it onto a recommendation list in the first place. I'm not sure if the product exists, but something that replicates a homemade setup would be amazing. Think of a bundled camera(s) + raspberry pi + 1tb backup drive or whatever that you can only access over your own dedicated personal wireguard vpn (or tailscale, something like that), but s…

An IP camera that requires the customer to set-up and secure outside access themselves will not sell to end users. The market is just too small and anyone who has the skills to secure this stuff themselves doesn't have to rely on a consumer grade product.

Post by m463 » Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 5:14 PM UTC

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #8

> The fundamental relationship between smart-home companies and their customers is founded on trust. Sadly, very few companies are trustworthy. Not all of them are evil; wanting to get into their users' data; many are just cheap and lazy. They don't want to spend money on the types of employees and process that will result in trustworthy kit. It's actually not hard to understand (less easy to forgive). The device mar…

Post by wombat-man » Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 5:15 PM UTC

drunner wrote: post #2

I mean, any security camera that does anything with the cloud should never make it onto a recommendation list in the first place. I'm not sure if the product exists, but something that replicates a homemade setup would be amazing. Think of a bundled camera(s) + raspberry pi + 1tb backup drive or whatever that you can only access over your own dedicated personal wireguard vpn (or tailscale, something like that), but s…