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Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by gruez »

thuridas wrote: post #13
shrikant wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a line even the Soviets and Chinese respected. Well, Russia is pretty fine with carrying out extra-judicial assassination attempts of undesirables on UK soil, so it's not clear this line is true any more.

And Russia is paying for it in weapons from UK to Ukraine. Also remember the killing in Turk soil by Saudi Arabia

> And Russia is paying for it in weapons from UK to Ukraine.

By all accounts that was caused by the Ukraine invasion rather than the assassination.

>Also remember the killing in Turk soil by Saudi Arabia

What end up happening to them? Seems like they got off pretty light. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi#U.S._response

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by shkkmo »

n_t wrote: post #39

Since this will soon become heated and full of misinformation, here are some details- 1. PM Trudeau called emergency session over "credible" allegations but no actual evidence. The leader of opposition has also called out lack of evidence. 2. Canada expelled a key Indian diplomat but not nothing more - basically diplomatese - https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/18/americas/canada-hardeep-s... 3. India issued statement ca…

I'm confused by several of your assertions.

You say Canada as "harbored" terrorists, but then link to an attack by Babbar Khalsa, which is designated as a terrorist by Canada. Do you have any basis for this assertion?

Also, I see calling credible allegations "baseless and irresponsible" doesn't inspire confidence. It's pretty clear how bad the assassination looks for India and pretending otherwise instead of promising to assist with investigations just make India look more guilty.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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mabbo wrote: post #48

To those saying "But Bill C-18" - it's not the Canadian government taking things down. It's the Indian government, taking down articles and posts that accuse them of assassinating a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil. C-18 is a problem. We need to deal with it. That's not relevant to the issue at hand. And to those saying "Well he was a terrorist..." we, in Canada, have something called the Rule of Law. You have to pr…

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Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by ipnon »

screye wrote: post #59
mabbo wrote: post #48

To those saying "But Bill C-18" - it's not the Canadian government taking things down. It's the Indian government, taking down articles and posts that accuse them of assassinating a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil. C-18 is a problem. We need to deal with it. That's not relevant to the issue at hand. And to those saying "Well he was a terrorist..." we, in Canada, have something called the Rule of Law. You have to pr…

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182 The Khalistani perpetrators of the worst terrorist act on Canadian soil, second only to 9/11 in deaths, walked free. I can't comment on Canada's justice system broadly. But when it comes to holding terrorists accountable, Canada's track record is a joke.

Mr. Nijjar was not involved; he was 8 years old when this happened.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by ta8645 »

eynsham wrote: post #57
ta8645 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In response, India had him assassinated. Why do people keep saying this like it's a fact? Often it's the same people claiming that the murdered victim in Canada should be presumed innocent of the accusations levelled at him. In both cases, we should approach the accusations with skepticism.

Indian nationalist circles close to the government have been claiming credit on behalf of RAW for some time (e.g., https://tfipost.com/2023/06/raw-will-never-confirm-but-harde... ).

Even that article you cite stops short of saying that RAW was definitely the perpetrator.

There are occasionally people who opportunistically claim credit for crimes they didn't commit, when it suits their politics. And even if it was someone in RAW, being "close to the government", does not necessarily mean it was ordered by that government.

None of us have enough information to say for sure at this point. Yet people carry on like we know the truth without equivocation.

The Prime Minister of Canada just did a state visit to India, where he was not warmly received, and made to look foolish on the world stage. So, he has his own political calculations in this affair, and is far from an objective arbiter of truth.

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by eYsYs »

mabbo wrote: post #48

To those saying "But Bill C-18" - it's not the Canadian government taking things down. It's the Indian government, taking down articles and posts that accuse them of assassinating a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil. C-18 is a problem. We need to deal with it. That's not relevant to the issue at hand. And to those saying "Well he was a terrorist..." we, in Canada, have something called the Rule of Law. You have to pr…

> Murdering someone without trial because you don't like their political speech- why, I think there's a word for that.

Oh yeah? What's the word for accusing someone for murdering without an iota of proof?

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by adolph »

slashdev wrote: post #20
gustavus wrote: post #17

For those wondering this isn't because of their boneheaded law the official justification is > Your page has been unpublished,” reads a notice sent to BC Sikhs that was reviewed by PressProgress. “This is because BC Sikhs goes against our Community Standards on dangerous individuals and organizations. I for one am so glad that we agreed it was a good idea for social media to censor dangerous people and opinions, espe…

> BC Sikhs goes against our Community Standards on dangerous individuals and organizations. This is hilarious to anyone who knows any Sikhs. They’re some of the most peace loving people on planet earth.

> They’re some of the most peace loving people on planet earth.

I'd be open to see a statistical argument to support the above position.

  "peace loving" != "not dangerous"
As an example: The kirpan (Punjabi: ਕਿਰਪਾਨ) is a curved, single-edged blade that Khalsa Sikhs are required to wear as part of their religious uniform . . . Sikhs are expected to embody the qualities of a Sant Sipahi or "saint-soldier", showing no fear on the battlefield and treating defeated enemies humanely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by gruez »

motohagiography wrote: post #60
n_t wrote: post #39

Since this will soon become heated and full of misinformation, here are some details- 1. PM Trudeau called emergency session over "credible" allegations but no actual evidence. The leader of opposition has also called out lack of evidence. 2. Canada expelled a key Indian diplomat but not nothing more - basically diplomatese - https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/18/americas/canada-hardeep-s... 3. India issued statement ca…

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>the PM's governing party has been facilitating mass migration of Sikhs from India at a massive scale on every concievable visa exception

Source?

Re: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader

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Post by RobRivera »

asg101 wrote: post #58
mabbo wrote: post #48

To those saying "But Bill C-18" - it's not the Canadian government taking things down. It's the Indian government, taking down articles and posts that accuse them of assassinating a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil. C-18 is a problem. We need to deal with it. That's not relevant to the issue at hand. And to those saying "Well he was a terrorist..." we, in Canada, have something called the Rule of Law. You have to pr…

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incredibly brave
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