I'm amazed that such datasets exist. Don't know what's the purpose and who is managing this but it's jus absurd (in a good way)
London Street Trees
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, although on this map I think the trees in parks are not shown
It's based on data from councils and tfl, so council run parks are included (e.g. Gunnersbury near where I live) but not royal parks (like Richmond park)
Seems there are at least a few trees missing in some of the council parks near me, but most of them are there. Quite nice.
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#63London has a surprising history and love for its trees, more so than I've seen in other cities I've lived in. This means you can find a lot of fun listicles that provide history and fun facts for trees located around the city. For example, [Great Trees of London]( https://londonist.com/london/maps/great-trees-of-london-map ) has a collection I'd actually enjoy walking around, and coupling with other sites in the area…
Not to one-up you, but Sheffield in South Yorkshire has even more trees. I visited recently and was taken aback by how much coverage there was for a city center, coming from Leeds, which seems to hate trees. If I remember correctly, London has around 8.5 million trees (for a population of almost 9 million, 1:1 tree:person) and Sheffield has around 4.5 million (for a much smaller population of less than 600,000, 7.5:1…
I can’t believe how long that saga went on!
Sheffield residents are rightly extremely proud of their city. The trees are absolutely wonderful and their numbers make Sheffield quite special. Good on the protestors!
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#64I'm amazed that such datasets exist. Don't know what's the purpose and who is managing this but it's jus absurd (in a good way)
I think, at least partially, "civil engineers" - good to know where trees are as an indication of potential root problems with pavements, pipes, conduits, etc. Also for things like "where might we have road overhang problems" - if it's a conifer, probably ok, but if it's a London Plane, that might be an issue.
Oh and also to know where to send the horrifically noisy leaf blowing man who spends half his life outside in the square revving his diesel abomination.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I bet this this website cost London £100k or more. Perhaps spend less time worrying about a made up estimate of tax money spent and more time lobbying internally for Google to pay their fair share of tax?
Shouldn't we define "fair share" as that defined by the laws that have been implemented by the politicians sufficiently bribed by the lobbyists?
No, no we shouldn't. There's a huge gulf between legal and moral.
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#66I'm amazed that such datasets exist. Don't know what's the purpose and who is managing this but it's jus absurd (in a good way)
> I'm amazed that such datasets exist. Don't know what's the purpose and who is managing this but it's jus absurd (in a good way)
A significant portion of London's trees are subject to Tree Preservation Orders (TPO) and/or are located in a conservation area.[1]
If you want to do anything to a tree subject to the above, then you in conjunction with your tree surgeon need to request permission from the local authority. If you don't then you're in trouble because it is a criminal offence to remove, prune or damage protected trees.
In addition you of course have non-protected trees on public land that are owned by the local authority and so they likely have a maintenance database for those.
So it therefore goes that you require a database of said trees and hence this dataset is likely nothing more than an aggregation of the indvidual datasets from the various local authorities (of which there are 32 IIRC, hence quite a lot of data).
Here is an example of a TPO list from just one Local Authority.[2]
[1] https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tree-preservation-orders-and-tre... [2] https://www.merton.gov.uk/planning-and-buildings/planning/tr...
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#67I have also tried to visualize all trees and to find missing trees in Munich city from publicly available aerial images.
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#68As a slightly more frivolous use of this website - we're approaching conker season!
Last year my kids wanted to go collecting conkers and I used a similar website (https://www.treetalk.co.uk/) to find a local place with lots of horse chestnuts.
It worked brilliantly and the kids thought I was some kind of genius for finding so many.
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#69There seem to be a lot of trees in the category "other". Is there more detailed data for species and variety in another database somewhere, or is there a need for a massive wiki-style tree-spotting data-gathering exercise? Could start now while they still have leaves on them and perhaps also fruit ...
A propos that, if you ask it to show just "Black Locust" and "Horse Chestnut", then nothing is shown. But those are common trees! And they are also the two whose names consist of two words. So I suspect a BUG!
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#70London has a surprising history and love for its trees, more so than I've seen in other cities I've lived in. This means you can find a lot of fun listicles that provide history and fun facts for trees located around the city. For example, [Great Trees of London]( https://londonist.com/london/maps/great-trees-of-london-map ) has a collection I'd actually enjoy walking around, and coupling with other sites in the area…
Not to one-up you, but Sheffield in South Yorkshire has even more trees. I visited recently and was taken aback by how much coverage there was for a city center, coming from Leeds, which seems to hate trees. If I remember correctly, London has around 8.5 million trees (for a population of almost 9 million, 1:1 tree:person) and Sheffield has around 4.5 million (for a much smaller population of less than 600,000, 7.5:1…
I just came across this: https://sheffieldtreemap.com/
More japanese cherry trees that I realised