My personal opinion (besides this constant flux of Retool product announcements) is that I truly tried and gave Retool a chance... but man, it was tough to get started, I rather just code from scratch with some boilerplate.
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#62How is it possible that Retool login page [1] loads 6.4MB of resources? The app.js [2] alone is 4.0M when loaded on local machine. Is this common? [1]: https://app.retool.com/auth/login [2]: https://retool-edge.com/app.cd90db16bade51faa017.js
That's a fair concern and something we're working on improving every day! It's fairly common when you consider Retool in the context of other development platforms. VSCode is a 200MB download and is considered small in the desktop space. Even gdocs is ~30MB. For context, these resources are cached on your machine. So you should find that the actual data transferred significantly decreases after the first visit.
Are you even reading the parent comment? He is pointing to the login page. I don't understand the comparison with VSCode.
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#64My personal opinion (besides this constant flux of Retool product announcements) is that I truly tried and gave Retool a chance... but man, it was tough to get started, I rather just code from scratch with some boilerplate.
Have you tried https://lowdefy.com ? (Shameless plug, co-founder)
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#65My personal opinion (besides this constant flux of Retool product announcements) is that I truly tried and gave Retool a chance... but man, it was tough to get started, I rather just code from scratch with some boilerplate.
Have you tried Windmill?
It feels like all these "low code" tools are aimed at a tiny audience of technical people who are somehow technical enough to understand these UIs, but not quite technical enough to quickly roll their scripts and prototypes out the "traditional" way.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you tried Windmill?
I don't understand the appeal of these tools. I've tried it, but it's a complete cognitive overload, having to learn some proprietary UI to do simple things. I don't understand why adding for-loops by pointing, clicking and entering some textbox on the side for the expression is easier than simply typing it out. It feels like all these "low code" tools are aimed at a tiny audience of technical people who are somehow…
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#67My personal opinion (besides this constant flux of Retool product announcements) is that I truly tried and gave Retool a chance... but man, it was tough to get started, I rather just code from scratch with some boilerplate.
They also have a problematic pricing model that punishes you for having a high number of users.
If you’re looking for external apps, check out portals (https://retool.com/products/portals) that has custom volume discounts for many, many users
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#68Okay. If it is any good , we need to create an open source and free version for the community
Just to be clear Retool Vectors is completely free (we're even taking on the LLM costs). We put the embeddings in a free postgres DB (and soon other open source vector DB providers) and give you the connection string so you can take it anywhere
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#69Looks neat. Do you guys plan to allow the use of custom AI models down the road? Especially for the enterprise use case.
Who knows longer-term I'd love to help users fine-tune their own models on llama2/gpt-3.5!