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Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by Produce »

usaar333 wrote: post #42
ma2rten wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are not doing Apple justice. Next to WebKit, which is the base for Chrome and Safari, they also open sourced Darwin, which is the base for iOS and MacOS X.

Didn't they legally have to opensource webkit? It's a derivative of KHTML which is under the LGPL. I'll give Apple credit for Darwin though.

What is up with people giving Apple credit for everything in this discussion? Darwin is composed of the Mach 3 microkernel, parts of BSD and NeXTSTEP. In other words, the vast majority of the work that has gone into it is not Apple's. It's merely a BSD-style distribution.

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by onemoreact »

el_presidente wrote: post #57
jxi wrote: post #38

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I'm a software engineer, and it took me a good 10 minutes to find the damn setting. I haven't used IE in a few years but had to fire it up to so some UI testing. Gosh this definitely screams monopoly abuse to me.

Speaking of monopoly abuse... google.com tells me to download Chrome to make the Internet faster.

I understand where your coming from, but IMO there is a world of difference between a call to action and making things worse to leverage your market dominance.

Can you honestly think of any reason for this screen not to just show other options that's good for users? http://static.arstechnica.com/ie8_search.png

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by Produce »

ttt_ wrote: post #49
AznHisoka wrote: post #7

As much as I like Chrome, the increase in Chrome's share also means more people will be using Google by default.. and their search dominance scares me. Consumer web startups can literally die overnight if Google penalizes them(google "TeachStreet"), or if their Adwords account got banned for some unknown reason.

This will only get worse as Google progressively decides to plussify Chrome. Out of all of Google's products, Chrome is the one that worries me the most. Using Chrome means that you just upped Google's reach on you by many fold, they now are running code directly tied to your machine and not within the constraints of a web page or app. Are they invading your device privacy through Chrome? I dunno, probably not yet, b…

It's funny how just a few years ago Google could seemingly do no wrong. The more I see of life, the more I agree with Stallman's fundamentalist perspective that all software should be free and open. It would prevent these abuses as anyone could just setup a search engine or web based document editor if they didn't like the way their provider was conducting business.

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by onemoreact »

ttt_ wrote: post #49
AznHisoka wrote: post #7

As much as I like Chrome, the increase in Chrome's share also means more people will be using Google by default.. and their search dominance scares me. Consumer web startups can literally die overnight if Google penalizes them(google "TeachStreet"), or if their Adwords account got banned for some unknown reason.

This will only get worse as Google progressively decides to plussify Chrome. Out of all of Google's products, Chrome is the one that worries me the most. Using Chrome means that you just upped Google's reach on you by many fold, they now are running code directly tied to your machine and not within the constraints of a web page or app. Are they invading your device privacy through Chrome? I dunno, probably not yet, b…

The fact that Chrome added incognito window is a good sign, the fact that there is still no flash block is a bad one IMO. Honestly, I think gmail and search are probably more dangerous when it comes to privacy. People can track the information Chrome sends back to Google, but you have no idea what happens once your data is on their servers.

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by freehunter »

Produce wrote: post #60
freehunter wrote: post #53

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Even worse is a handful of web apps we use at work are coded specifically for Firefox. Firefox 3.6. They don't work in IE, Chrome, or newer Firefox versions. Then we have some other ones that only support IE 6 and 7. My laptop only has 1GB of RAM. Yeah...

1GB of RAM on a work computer? I'd flat out refuse to do anything until they fork out a whopping £30 to quadruple that.

Sorry, I've edited this post. The original felt like an off topic rant.

Long story short, we're moving to BYOD soon, and until then I'm using a backup laptop from years ago since I'm pretty low on the food chain here.

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by Sindisil »

onemoreact wrote: post #64
ttt_ wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This will only get worse as Google progressively decides to plussify Chrome. Out of all of Google's products, Chrome is the one that worries me the most. Using Chrome means that you just upped Google's reach on you by many fold, they now are running code directly tied to your machine and not within the constraints of a web page or app. Are they invading your device privacy through Chrome? I dunno, probably not yet, b…

The fact that Chrome added incognito window is a good sign, the fact that there is still no flash block is a bad one IMO. Honestly, I think gmail and search are probably more dangerous when it comes to privacy. People can track the information Chrome sends back to Google, but you have no idea what happens once your data is on their servers.

You can set Chrome to block all plugins. There's a context menu item to selectively run the plugin, and a white-list, as well.

Nice.

Still, I've recently switched back to FF as my primary, for other reasons.

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by Sindisil »

ttt_ wrote: post #49
AznHisoka wrote: post #7

As much as I like Chrome, the increase in Chrome's share also means more people will be using Google by default.. and their search dominance scares me. Consumer web startups can literally die overnight if Google penalizes them(google "TeachStreet"), or if their Adwords account got banned for some unknown reason.

This will only get worse as Google progressively decides to plussify Chrome. Out of all of Google's products, Chrome is the one that worries me the most. Using Chrome means that you just upped Google's reach on you by many fold, they now are running code directly tied to your machine and not within the constraints of a web page or app. Are they invading your device privacy through Chrome? I dunno, probably not yet, b…

Yeah, I agree. In fact, I've recently switched back to FF as my primary browser.

The thing that pushed me over the edge was the way chrome insists I log in to my google account.

Granted, it doesn't force you to log in, but the version I recently installed on my Ubuntu based netbook kept popping up a dialog at launch, nagging me to do so. The options on the dialog were to log in or wait until later (no option for never).

I just looked now, and it appears that if I go in and manually disconnect my google account, it no longer bugs me. Hmm ... I could swear I tried that before switching back to FF.

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by onemoreact »

Sindisil wrote: post #66
onemoreact wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that Chrome added incognito window is a good sign, the fact that there is still no flash block is a bad one IMO. Honestly, I think gmail and search are probably more dangerous when it comes to privacy. People can track the information Chrome sends back to Google, but you have no idea what happens once your data is on their servers.

You can set Chrome to block all plugins. There's a context menu item to selectively run the plugin, and a white-list, as well. Nice. Still, I've recently switched back to FF as my primary, for other reasons.

Cool, thanks!

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by thewordis »

onemoreact wrote: post #64
ttt_ wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This will only get worse as Google progressively decides to plussify Chrome. Out of all of Google's products, Chrome is the one that worries me the most. Using Chrome means that you just upped Google's reach on you by many fold, they now are running code directly tied to your machine and not within the constraints of a web page or app. Are they invading your device privacy through Chrome? I dunno, probably not yet, b…

The fact that Chrome added incognito window is a good sign, the fact that there is still no flash block is a bad one IMO. Honestly, I think gmail and search are probably more dangerous when it comes to privacy. People can track the information Chrome sends back to Google, but you have no idea what happens once your data is on their servers.

They're adding 'click-to-play' as an option for plugins like flash in the default browser settings (no extension required) in version 18. It's allowed people to turn on the radio button using about:flags for more than a year.

Once enabled, go to wrench menu > Settings > Under the Bonnet > Advanced Settings > Privacy > Content Settings > Plug-ins

Re: Chrome beats IE market share for one day

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Post by avallark »

RyanMcGreal wrote: post #47
avallark wrote: post #30

Chrome beats IE market share. It showed that over the weekend Chrome is the most used browser, while on a weekday, people go back to work and use IE. This has two implications: 1) Companies are still locked into some solutions like OWA and sharepoint because of which users still use IE at work. 2) Users have started distinguishing between browsers and at home they prefer using Chrome. For companies with most of their…

> Companies are still locked into some solutions like OWA and sharepoint because of which users still use IE at work. My hunch is that a lot of companies are locked into legacy internal web applications that were optimized for IE6 and look like crap in a modern browser.

From experience, our organization use OWA (outlook web access). The only way we can change password for my email id is on OWA and that works only on IE!
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