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2023 Paid VPN Relationship and Corporate VPN Ownership Map

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Re: 2023 Paid VPN Relationship and Corporate VPN Ownership Map

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alaxapta7 wrote: post #60
clsec wrote: post #53

I'm surprised that no one has said anything about the fact that this is put out by a VPN company! I also could not find their name on the map. It doesn't mean that it's not there, I just couldn't find them. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The only thing I find a VPN useful for is torrenting w/o your ISP knowing. In my case, I use Surfshark for torrenting so that Comcast can't send me any of those pesky letters.

> w/o your ISP knowing I'd be more concerned about everyone else: https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com

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Re: 2023 Paid VPN Relationship and Corporate VPN Ownership Map

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Post by capableweb »

TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #57
capableweb wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Aren’t VPNs much less useful unless they’re proven no-log VPN? That's basically saying that every VPN is "much less useful" as there is no 100% way of proving that it's no-log.

There were a few I recall (years ago, can't remember their name) that got raided by the FBI and it showed they had nothing to give the feds.

Could be that they got raided and are now under gag-order as FBI installed their own equipment. Or, they used to be no-log but now they aren't, on their own accord. We'll never know.

Re: 2023 Paid VPN Relationship and Corporate VPN Ownership Map

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Post by capableweb »

clsec wrote: post #53

I'm surprised that no one has said anything about the fact that this is put out by a VPN company! I also could not find their name on the map. It doesn't mean that it's not there, I just couldn't find them. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The only thing I find a VPN useful for is torrenting w/o your ISP knowing. In my case, I use Surfshark for torrenting so that Comcast can't send me any of those pesky letters.

> I also could not find their name on the map. It doesn't mean that it's not there, I just couldn't find them. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

They're there, in the top-right next to Mullvad, as they're also self-funded. Seemingly connected to "Control D" as it's a DNS service with focus on privacy built by them.

Also, from their "Ethics" page:

> Windscribe is entirely self funded. We don't have any VC's breathing down our necks and telling us what to do.

https://windscribe.com/ethics

Re: 2023 Paid VPN Relationship and Corporate VPN Ownership Map

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Post by askura »

clsec wrote: post #53

I'm surprised that no one has said anything about the fact that this is put out by a VPN company! I also could not find their name on the map. It doesn't mean that it's not there, I just couldn't find them. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The only thing I find a VPN useful for is torrenting w/o your ISP knowing. In my case, I use Surfshark for torrenting so that Comcast can't send me any of those pesky letters.

Top right my guy, with the same treatment as others.

There's 100% a difference between a billion dollar corporate owner vs indies. As well as the amount of spend that goes into affiliate marketing.

Re: 2023 Paid VPN Relationship and Corporate VPN Ownership Map

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Post by dxd »

clsec wrote: post #53

I'm surprised that no one has said anything about the fact that this is put out by a VPN company! I also could not find their name on the map. It doesn't mean that it's not there, I just couldn't find them. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The only thing I find a VPN useful for is torrenting w/o your ISP knowing. In my case, I use Surfshark for torrenting so that Comcast can't send me any of those pesky letters.

Windscribe is on the map with one connected node: their DNS service Control D. I know it seems a bit hypocritical and untrustworthy since it is written by a VPN company, but Windscribe is generally regarded as trustworthy, privacy oriented, and not deceiving customers for money [0]. Companies such as Windscribe, Mullvad, IVPN, and Proton are better in almost all cases than something like Surfshark because they minimize the risk of your personal info falling into the wrong hands. Unlike those proprietary companies that will turn over your full browsing history in a heartbeat when in court, companies like Windscribe will have nothing to turn over in the first place. I use Windscribe all the time personally because even if sites profile me, I dislike the fact that they can know the city in which I love just from connecting to the site, so there are a few other benefits.

[0] https://windscribe.com/ethics (audits and other general sources over YouTube and privacy forums confirm this)

Re: 2023 Paid VPN Relationship and Corporate VPN Ownership Map

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Post by tracker1 »

coldtea wrote: post #15
BXlnt2EachOther wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sort of; proper political donations can be looked up https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress

Those are just the over the table tip of the iceberg ones...

Considering most spending is through special interest groups on behalf or in favor or against certain candidates, the real and large funding is really hard to track. Especially when contributions will often go from a larger funding group to a smaller action committee, with obfuscated details... it's sickening and gross.

I'd really like to see all political funding only by individuals or organizations with open books, only able to receive funding from individuals or organizations with open books. If a corporate board/ceo wants contributions to be made, they can do it as individuals. It's definitely time for a constitutional amendment to eliminate corporate personhood.

Re: 2023 Paid VPN Relationship and Corporate VPN Ownership Map

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Post by Given_47 »

askura wrote: post #56
mantra2 wrote: post #50

Happy to see my VPN of choice, IVPN, out there with no affiliations coming out of it.

IVPN are studs of the industry, no doubt. Very serious folk working hard on sticking to their privacy principles - rare today for sure!

That’s good to hear as a mullvad user. They’re amazing, but often the only player recommended in the space.

Re: 2023 Paid VPN Relationship and Corporate VPN Ownership Map

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Post by fifteen1506 »

yegor wrote: post #40
CuriousCosmic wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends what you want. The chart doesn't really say which are the best, just which are undisputedly shady. #1 undisputed champion for security, privacy, and anonymity is almost certainly Mullvad. Note however that Mullvad servers tend to get flagged and blocked by services pretty quickly. Mozilla VPN (which you can turn on easily in Firefox) is just a thin shell around Mullvad. The ease of use could make it worth…

This list isn't about "dirt" but rather connections between companies and organizations. Windscribe is independent, and 100% privately owned. Source: Me, as a co-founder. If you want dirt on us, you can find it on our blog, written by me. https://blog.windscribe.com/ukrainian-server-seizure-a-comme...

Hi, couldn't find a contact on that specific page.

FYI I have a strong feeling that either AzireVPN was bought or is expanding to other areas.

The strongest hint of it was the source code and the organization disappeared from their old Github organization location.

Re: 2023 Paid VPN Relationship and Corporate VPN Ownership Map

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Post by clsec »

alaxapta7 wrote: post #60
clsec wrote: post #53

I'm surprised that no one has said anything about the fact that this is put out by a VPN company! I also could not find their name on the map. It doesn't mean that it's not there, I just couldn't find them. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The only thing I find a VPN useful for is torrenting w/o your ISP knowing. In my case, I use Surfshark for torrenting so that Comcast can't send me any of those pesky letters.

> w/o your ISP knowing I'd be more concerned about everyone else: https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com

Thanks for pointing that out! It turns out that the latest update to qBittorrent started binding to all available adapters. I just set it to only use my VPN's adapter and all seems to be fine now. Thanks again!

edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/qBittorrent/comments/14bzdct/psa_qb...

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