Fi now opts you into the use of your CPNI by Alphabet affiliates

Post by temp_praneshp » Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 6:28 PM UTC

anonydsfsfs wrote: post #6

verdverm wrote: post #4

Note, they also provide a one click link in the email to opt out, super easy Still enjoying my sub $30 bills and bloatware free device

It's not one-click, or at least it wasn't for me. I clicked the link in the sentence "If you prefer to opt out of letting Fi use and share your CPNI with Alphabet and Google services, you can do so by replying here", and it took me to the Google Fi homepage. I had to then click on Settings, "Privacy & Security", and finally on "Allow CPNI Sharing". Four clicks total.

Post by leotravis10 » Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 8:47 PM UTC

clhodapp wrote: post #26

slabity wrote: post #11

Someone needs to tell Google what "Opt-in" and "Opt-out" means. No, if you automatically enroll me into sharing my data with 3rd-parties, that is NOT opt-in. That's completely disingenuous. This should really be illegal.

I wonder whether Google will lose their meager remaining motivation to keep running Fi if they're told to stop doing this.

Post by nimos » Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 11:37 PM UTC

washadjeffmad wrote: post #62

nimos wrote: post #41

Seems like this violates a few of the notice requirements most clearly: (ii) Carriers must allow customers to reply directly to emails containing CPNI notices in order to opt-out; As it came from a no reply address. They have "If you prefer to opt out of letting Fi use and share your CPNI with Alphabet and Google services, you can do so by replying here" text in the email with "here" being a hyperlink that takes me t…

Clicking the link in my email last night immediately forwarded me to a "You have been opted out" page. I was using Chrome on a Chromebook I was logged into with the account I use for Fi, and the Fi app was installed, though.

Post by zardo » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 1:46 AM UTC

verdverm wrote: post #4

Note, they also provide a one click link in the email to opt out, super easy Still enjoying my sub $30 bills and bloatware free device

Post by Terretta » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 12:04 PM UTC

greyface- wrote: post #53

bragr wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need to read further to § 64.2005(2) which covers other categories of services: >(2) If a telecommunications carrier provides different categories of service, but a customer does not subscribe to more than one offering by the carrier, the carrier is not permitted to share CPNI with its affiliates, except as provided in § 64.2007(b). And 64.2007(b) as we've already covered says that carriers can use opt-in or opt-…

Interesting argument. This relies on the circular backreference to § 64.2007(b) from § 64.2005(a)(2), and wouldn't seem to apply for the § 64.2005(a)(1) case. Google's messaging uses "opt in", which seems to be at odds with an intent to rely on an opt-out characterization. I'd also welcome review from a lawyer with experience here.