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Re: 2009scape

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Post by bovermyer »

lelandfe wrote: post #54
SnowProblem wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Here's Gamespot's homepage in 2007: https://web.archive.org/web/20070228162159/http://www.gamesp... Very similar. So much more personality than Gamespot today: https://www.gamespot.com But back then everyone viewed websites on desktop. Mobile if supported was special-cased. It's the opposite now.

You call it personality, I call it gradient overload. Check out the difference in content density, though.

Humor me for a moment. What decade did you go to high school in?

Re: 2009scape

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Post by OsrsNeedsf2P »

detuks wrote: post #57

Shameless plug: Runescape JS, WASM, webgl client - https://play.rsps.app Built it a while ago. Doable for other bases as well P.S. https://github.com/reinismu/runescape-web-client-377 Souce code for one of my first ports

I played this back when it was a duel arena staking thing. Loved the idea, but it never took off. You should invest more time into it!

Re: 2009scape

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Post by mikedelago »

Cool, I didn't realize Runescape private servers were a thing still.

I contribute to AzerothCore[0] pretty regularly. There's a lot of improvements that could be made, but it's overall fun and the majority of people who frequent their Discord are friendly enough.

[0] https://github.com/azerothcore/azerothcore-wotlk

Re: 2009scape

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Post by blairbeckwith »

hoten wrote: post #23
fallat wrote: post #21

I'd love to see Jagex open source OSRS as a business decision to keep the game alive forever, and for leveraging the dedicated community. Now, I said open source, but that doesn't mean free. Even if the source was available, it would make the most sense if they kept it "non-free", as in, no commercial usage of the source may be allowed. People are free to run their own servers, but the Jagex ones will be "blessed". T…

Not the same, but Jagex has embraced (probably because they really had no choice) the 3p client "RuneLite". There is an understanding between Jagex and that community that the client is blessed, but only if they steer clear of certain features - like things that would reduce how much you have to interact with UI in the game, such as re-ordering items in the Construction right-click menu for convenience.

TIL that this is why I couldn’t configure the Menu Item Swapper or whatever last week when I was leveling Construction with oak larders. I wonder what makes construction a special case here vs, say, allowing one click dropping of collected resources.

Re: 2009scape

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Post by maxdamantus »

csours wrote: post #22
Multicomp wrote: post #13

I am seriously tempted by a project like this. They even have a linux client! The pinnacle of my Runescape days was just after they opened the Grand Exchange. That was around the time I realized that if I didn't stop playing this game every night, I'd have no life, so I began the process of walking away. The fact that I lost my login (pre-password manager days) had nothing to do with me making that wise decision, nor…

selling unids 400 How much did unids sell for? I've thought about a t-shirt that says "selling unids" just to see how many people get it ---- Unids are Unidentified Herbs, an item since removed from RS. Processing Unids was a relatively fast and very repeatable way to get Herblore experience.

Pretty sure I used to buy them for 1k each. Identified Ranarrs would sell for around 7k each, and I think prayer potions (4) would sell at a slight profit for 9k. I guess the lack of "make X" and automatic decanting made skilling actually profitable.

EDIT: actually, I think the 1k price was probably limited to herbs above a certain level. It was common practice to buy noted herbs above a certain level and keep your inventory full with other items to block trades with unidentified Guam leaves.

Here's another activity that will probably never exist again: Law running. I remember both being a runner and a crafter.

Re: 2009scape

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Post by ano224400 »

detuks wrote: post #57

Shameless plug: Runescape JS, WASM, webgl client - https://play.rsps.app Built it a while ago. Doable for other bases as well P.S. https://github.com/reinismu/runescape-web-client-377 Souce code for one of my first ports

This is very cool. Love the default builds. I tried from my mobile browser and swiftly got PKed :) Thanks for sharing.

Re: 2009scape

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Post by NavinF »

gcau wrote: post #56
memefrog wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'Open source' and 'free (as in speech)' are, in the software context, synonyms. It is incoherent to say 'open source but non-commercial'.

I disagree. You're basically saying, "open source code isn't open-source". There's nothing incoherent about what they said.

"Licenses which only permit non-commercial redistribution or modification of the source code for personal use only are generally not considered as open-source licenses. However, open-source licenses may have some restrictions, particularly regarding the expression of respect to the origin of software, such as a requirement to preserve the name of the authors and a copyright statement within the code, or a requirement to redistribute the licensed software only under the same license (as in a copyleft license)"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source

"No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor

The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research"

https://opensource.org/osd/

If you don't allow commercial use, your code is "source-available", not "open source"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-available_software

Re: 2009scape

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Post by hypercube33 »

insanitybit wrote: post #40
memefrog wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OSRS players have not been "stuck with low quality graphics". The appeal of that version of the game is as a whole. It was not just "the version without the one later change that wasn't liked". It was the version before the general change in approach. The big problem with the "HD" version was that it was inconsistent. They couldn't update the whole world at once (or chose not to) so they updated it in bits, and those…

I wonder what the impact of social media has been. 1. I was on Runscape in the early 2000s. There was no Twitter, Facebook was very new and not really that popular, and nothing else existed. Like, I think Gaia was one of the more popular forums I knew of lol. That meant that Runescape was actually a highly social experience - it's insane the kinds of relationships I built as a 14-18 year old who played the game somew…

I never played RuneScape but man the talk about using it as a social platform brings memories back. Quake 2, Tribes 2, The Palace Chat, First star online (the PC thing that was like an open clone of Zelda) and a few others. I miss the community and shenanigans and overall super supportive friendly people.

Re: 2009scape

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Post by opportune »

SnowProblem wrote: post #51
bovermyer wrote: post #37

I really appreciate the web design. That was a style that only existed for about five years, give or take a year or two. It makes me really nostalgic. But beyond that, that style of web design has completely disappeared. It was expensive to make, not particularly mobile-friendly, and only really favors one screen resolution. But it was beautiful.

Exactly. Here's Gamespot's homepage in 2007: https://web.archive.org/web/20070228162159/http://www.gamesp... Very similar. So much more personality than Gamespot today: https://www.gamespot.com But back then everyone viewed websites on desktop. Mobile if supported was special-cased. It's the opposite now.

Modern designers would think it’s terrible because it gives you too much information, and suggest putting in way more white space, hiding things under menu bars. I wish I was being facetious but sadly it’s a sincere statement.

Completely agree though. Information-heavy pages for desktop consumption were wonderful. It truly feels like we’ve regressed. Just loading that gamespot link honestly filled me with an immense nostalgia for the web of 10-15 years ago

Re: 2009scape

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Post by memefrog »

gcau wrote: post #56
memefrog wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'Open source' and 'free (as in speech)' are, in the software context, synonyms. It is incoherent to say 'open source but non-commercial'.

I disagree. You're basically saying, "open source code isn't open-source". There's nothing incoherent about what they said.

No, I am saying open source code is open source. Open source has had an established, fixed definition for decades. It was coined for a specific purpose to represent a particular category of software licence.

You are doing a disservice to anyone reading what you write if you use a term with a fixed, established definition to mean something completely different without signalling that you are doing so. Language is for communication.

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