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Metallica hard-wires a different set list every night

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There's something I don't understand. He's been a drummer for 40 years now. How can he still be "not good"?

Probably because he doesn’t dedicate himself to the craft. Musicians tend to get better with age, not worse.

To a point. Drumming requires a lot more stamina than other instruments, so after a certain point, drummers have a hard time playing as well as they did when younger. We're seeing this now with Iron Maiden's Nicko McBrain, who's over 70. It's not like this for guitars/bass, but again with Iron Maiden, people are saying that they aren't running around the stage they way they did in the past.

Age isn't Lars's problem though.

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> You get some connection by being close hold up - is this why people go to concerts? because they think they're connecting on some level with the band? I've been to a few small concerts and not once was I seeking, or did I feel, any connection of any kind. I may be too autistic or ADHD to understand concerts, I guess. I didn't like the few I went to and I won't go to one again. the music sounds far better at home an…

I don't go to concerts for the music quality. Listening to a mastered studio recording is much better for that. I go (or rather used to go) for the atmosphere. Some bands really know how to perform and experiencing that as part of a crowd who are also fans is a great experience. Maybe connecting isn't the right word, at least how you're thinking of it, but it is experiencing the performance, appreciating how they lov…

>I rarely go to gigs now as the atmosphere has changed from when I first started gigging back in the 20th century. People increasingly seem to go for something to do and a place to be check in on social media, not to appreciate a band they love. People talk over the music, video pointlessly on their phones, heckle, etc...

I've been to a not-large number of various metal shows in the 21st century, including in the last 5 years, and this isn't my experience at all. except for the video part: some people are using their phones to record the show, or take photos. But certainly no heckling, talking over the music (pretty hard when it's that loud), etc. Generally crowds are very respectful in my experience, and are there to listen to the music (and remember it with their phone recordings too apparently).

Maybe this shows a big difference between genres?

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I think this is what the OP meant, based on the essay he linked.

Yes exactly. If it was a direct payment they had to announce it. But it's corrupt payment and that's what pg's article is saying.

I don't think you understand pg's piece or how PR works. The idea is that the article is there because it was pitched by a PR agency rather than the journalist sniffing it out. The grain of sand that creates the pearl is from the PR agency. There's not a corrupt payment; the client pays the PR company, the PR company doesn't pay the publication. The PR company and their client don't need to offer a corrupt payment because they are giving the publication something useful - an easy start on an article - but it's at the editor's discretion whether it makes it to the audience.

A newspaper/magazine/site wants to fill pages with things of interest. Sometimes it's investigative (though often these are built through tip-offs anyway), sometimes it's fluffier. The PR company is briefed by the client and then develops things to pitch that suit a particular publication. They build these relationships over time and don't want to destroy them with consistently bad story pitches. PG's article goes through this.

If there's a business person profiled on the front of the careers liftout, that was the work of their PR company. PG estimated half of the news, but I'd guess it to be higher than that. Once you've seen behind the scenes, you recognise it in almost every article.

I didn't read this Metallica article, but the client could've been Metallica, the venue, or something else. If there are quotes from Metallica, that will almost certainly tell you it was them. The writer doesn't need payment from the client or PR company because they are being handed an interview opportunity on a platter, or exclusive quotes or convinced that some other element of the angle will be of interest to their readers (stage configuration, etc).

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