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A new instrument found unusual success

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Re: A new instrument found unusual success

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Jacob Collier (relatively famous musician) has a number of videos playing the Harpejji. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5T-9RPW4pg He has a lot of great content in general and musical talent, if you’ve never come across him before. Worth diving into.

Justin Lee Schultz also plays the Harpejji, and plays both piano and guitar like a monster. :)

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I came up with something similar, in the opposite direction: https://github.com/Miserlou/LaunchBoard It's an Ableton device to map the keys of a Novation LaunchPad as if it were an 8 string, 8 fret guitar. I play the guitar but not the piano, but play a lot of synths. This bridges the gap for me, and it's so, so, so much fun. I'm thinking about doing a dedicated hardware version with proper midi out, touch sensitivit…

There are some reasonable ways to do pressure-sensitive buttons cheaply. I'm also working on an electronic instrument. What I do is glue felt on the back of a sheet of 1/8" birch ply (using liquid hide glue), and then laser cut all my button tops out of that. The buttons are held in place by a laser-cut wooden frame, also 1/8" birch ply but without the felt. I stick packing tape to the back of the frame sticky-side u…

I have used velostat for this purpose with a similar design, but i had too many problems with self-consistency of response across different buttons. There was a fair amount of hysteresis too, i thought too much to be usable as an instrument. I am wondwering if the felt is the secret sauce?

I am moving toward 3d printed pivoting keys with an internal mirrored surface that reflects variable amounts of light into a photoresistor depending on depression. Would prefer the velostat though if it can work reliably

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This needs to be multiscale. The treble sounds strained and whiny, because it's at too much tension, because it's too long. The bass sounds farty and unfocused, because it's at too little tension, because it's too short. There's a good reason bass guitars are bigger than guitars. Multi-scale guitars have been out of patent for years now. And if the harpejji was invented in 2007, then I believe it should go out of pat…

I'm not sure it's even patentable in the first place. It's just a Chapman Stick with more strings.

Re: A new instrument found unusual success

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I remember at NAMM about 10 years ago, the company I worked for made a touchscreen-based mixing console.

The CEO insisted to have Stevie Wonder try it. What surprised me is that he (SW) looked impressed doing so, moving virtual faders on a glass screen with no tactile feedback.

That was my first realization that music is a business like any other, and getting a famous person doing a PR stunt for your product may be beneficial, even though they're not at all the intended consumer.

But also, SW was using his ears more than his fingers to get the feedback the product was lacking, and so what started as a bad joke made me respect him even more.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The commonality is "string instrument with many strings", which would include a lot of things (electric hammered dulcimers for example). This, however, has important differences in design and operation, the most significant of which is the use of "an electronic muting system to dampen unfretted strings and minimize the impact of sympathetic vibrations."

Ha ha, 21st Century autoharp.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

Re: A new instrument found unusual success

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This needs to be multiscale. The treble sounds strained and whiny, because it's at too much tension, because it's too long. The bass sounds farty and unfocused, because it's at too little tension, because it's too short. There's a good reason bass guitars are bigger than guitars. Multi-scale guitars have been out of patent for years now. And if the harpejji was invented in 2007, then I believe it should go out of pat…

Thanks for that, you nailed everything that was bugging me about that timbre. Someone else mentioned the Chapman stick, and this instrument is equally disappointing.

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This needs to be multiscale. The treble sounds strained and whiny, because it's at too much tension, because it's too long. The bass sounds farty and unfocused, because it's at too little tension, because it's too short. There's a good reason bass guitars are bigger than guitars. Multi-scale guitars have been out of patent for years now. And if the harpejji was invented in 2007, then I believe it should go out of pat…

> And if the harpejji was invented in 2007, then I believe it should go out of patents next year?

Patent lifetimes are at least 20 years after the filing date as per TRIPS treaty. There's the priority mechanism for international filing, providing up to another year, and there are usually various means for additional protection time if regulations delayed the process. Those are mostly relevant for medical patents to compensate for trial-based delays, but "the PTO was too slow" seems to be reasonable ground for an extension, too.

As such, we're looking at 2028.

I was wondering what you could mean: in the US, before ~1997 patents used to be valid 17 years from the date of patent grant, which would fit the timeframe you mention. Grant date was usually a few years down the road and with submarine patents (keeping them in limbo by continually sending minor changes to the USPTO until it's worth having them active), that span could be extended practically infinitely. That time is, thankfully, over.

Re: A new instrument found unusual success

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This needs to be multiscale. The treble sounds strained and whiny, because it's at too much tension, because it's too long. The bass sounds farty and unfocused, because it's at too little tension, because it's too short. There's a good reason bass guitars are bigger than guitars. Multi-scale guitars have been out of patent for years now. And if the harpejji was invented in 2007, then I believe it should go out of pat…

Since sound is completely subjective anyway, perhaps the reason this is gaining popularity is because it fills the void for people who aren't completely happy with the sound of the traditional guitar or bass guitar, and prefer their music to sound this way.
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