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19 year old from Florida commits suicide on Justin.tv

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Re: 19 year old from Florida commits suicide on Justin.tv

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Post by hugh »

rksprst wrote: post #49
tlrobinson wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like it was mostly the bodybuilding.com (currently down) forum members that were doing the egging. Justin.tv happened to be caught in the middle. Google cache: http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:iCJ0Fwq-DVwJ:forum.body...

Also: http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:r5eE7w8sqEQJ:forum.body... http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:Y6Es8cNik58J:forum.body... Be interesting to see if some of those guys get tried with second degree manslaughter or something similar.

I don't really see anyone "egging him on". All I see is a bunch of people not taking him seriously.

Re: 19 year old from Florida commits suicide on Justin.tv

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Post by noonespecial »

tdavis wrote: post #51
tdavis wrote: post #3

Pills? If you're going to live broadcast your own death, make it more interesting than watching paint dry. Sheesh.

Seriously people? I didn't expect this to be taken well by most here (in fact it was an experiment to see if there was a limit to down-voting), but some of you seem to be on a war path now. It doesn't really matter what the Justin.tv CEO said. He pasted some boiler plate because there's nothing more to be said; the deed had been done. What do you want? An apology for not finding the video? For not policing the Intern…

Seriously people? I didn't expect this to be taken well by most here (in fact it was an experiment to see if there was a limit to down-voting), but some of you seem to be on a war path now.

Oh, so now I'm a guinea pig in a sociology experiment when I come to hacker news?

Nice. That makes it so much better. Don't think I'll be using ticket-bumbler either.

Edit: Note for future.

Ask HN: Paul, Is there a downvote limit on HN?

See, isn't that better?

Re: 19 year old from Florida commits suicide on Justin.tv

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Post by dbrush »

tlrobinson wrote: post #37
DaniFong wrote: post #30

I'm holding back tears. We must find a way to make the internet a nicer place. Such astonishing cruelty breeds here. Why?

I think for a lot of people there's a huge disconnect between internet and reality. On the internet it's often just words on a page, with no association to real people. Also, there's so much shocking material and people joking around on the Internet sometimes it's hard to realize what's "real" and what's not. People like guy who pranked Zed Shaw a couple weeks ago certainly don't help: http://zedshaw.com/blog/2008-10…

The scarier issue is that for some people there really isn't a disconnect.

Re: 19 year old from Florida commits suicide on Justin.tv

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Post by Allocator2008 »

Reminds me of that James Woods film, "Videodrome", an existential musing on reality, specifically, television being more "real" than real life. While dated, one could update the "Videodrome" movie concept for the internet age. Obviously, Justin.tv did nothing wrong, in terms of the fact one cannot edit live video. It does bring up questions about the need for sensationalism, that somehow there is a collective need for it, almost like an archtype.

Re: 19 year old from Florida commits suicide on Justin.tv

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Post by Goronmon »

jasonbentley wrote: post #39
jyothi wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not what you say that matters but the action - what you feel and do. Yes Justin.tv can say for PR "oh I am deeply shocked and we here would all mourn for 30 days." Lets restrict animated false talks. edit: I know I am going to be downmodded for being bluntly realistic.

I'd wager that everyone at Justin.tv is shocked and saddened. Too bad nobody knows that for sure.

Then again, no one knows if you are shocked and saddened either since all you've posted are complaints about the CEO's response. That's the line of reasoning you are taking, isn't it?

I know the response isn't good PR, but I'm not sure why I or anyone else is supposed to be worried about what the CEO of Justin.tv thinks about the suicide. Maybe they could make it clear to their users to treat such incidents as serious where possible, but how are some kind words supposed to help the situation?

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