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Amazon Cuts Dozens of House Brands as It Battles Costs, Regulators

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Re: Amazon Cuts Dozens of House Brands as It Battles Costs, Regulators

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The only amazon basics I bought is two monitor arms. I bought them because they are made by Ergotron and have a logo applied to them. They were on sale for 65€ each while the original (Ergotron LX) costs 160€

I only bought them because they are Ergotrons.

Re: Amazon Cuts Dozens of House Brands as It Battles Costs, Regulators

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Once upon a time you could choose to buy good products from good brands on Amazon, or import cheap crap from China via Aliexpress or whatnot. But now that nearly every category on Amazon is dominated by cheap crap from dodgy brands in China, I'm feeling less reason to buy things from them (unless I need it tomorrow ). I suppose that's what's fuelling the popularity of new marketplaces like Temu?

Home brands of durable goods in the last 10 years have pretty much always been "Chinese crap" (I use this term loosely, sometimes the products are pretty good). BUT, and this is the key part - buyer teams from major brands vet the supplier, make cost/quality tradeoffs and do all the supplier due diligence (like making them attest the products are not made by "modern slavery", don't have lead in them, etc). They also…

This is the whole problem with Amazon and why I call it a flea market.

Other retailers put their reputation on the line with their merchandise. Sure, the same factory that manufactures for Old Navy makes QRYGGS. But Old Navy vets it.

Amazon’s issue is that it tosses its hands up and says “Sold by QRYGGS, fulfilled by Amazon.” Amazon says: if it’s garbage, not our fault, but you can return it. That’s just wandering a flea market with random vendors selling junk.

So I’m actually disappointed that Amazon would double-down on this by eliminating its private labels. At least if I see it’s an Amazon brand, I know they vouch for it. Indeed, my experiences with Amazon brands have been at least decent. But given the choice between fighting the regulators, somehow firewalling the private labels from the other vendors, or reducing its flea-market trafficking, Amazon decided to double-down on the flea market and scale back goods that it vets. It’s a big red-light district of some good stuff mixed in with tons of garbage.

Re: Amazon Cuts Dozens of House Brands as It Battles Costs, Regulators

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My last two orders from Amazon were counterfeits. One was a pack of Sandisk thumbdrives that were very obviously fakes. I determined that Amazon simply doesn't care anymore. The value proposition was completely lost because I had to drive into town to return them. Twice in a row. Further, their prices have gotten horrible on a lot of things. I looked at some of their lawncare items, and most of them were 2-3x more th…

(side-note: You can get Sandisk stuff directly from Western Digital.)

Of course Western Digital has been having its own problems with ssd drives dying.

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post #43
post #9

Once upon a time you could choose to buy good products from good brands on Amazon, or import cheap crap from China via Aliexpress or whatnot. But now that nearly every category on Amazon is dominated by cheap crap from dodgy brands in China, I'm feeling less reason to buy things from them (unless I need it tomorrow ). I suppose that's what's fuelling the popularity of new marketplaces like Temu?

My last two orders from Amazon were counterfeits. One was a pack of Sandisk thumbdrives that were very obviously fakes. I determined that Amazon simply doesn't care anymore. The value proposition was completely lost because I had to drive into town to return them. Twice in a row. Further, their prices have gotten horrible on a lot of things. I looked at some of their lawncare items, and most of them were 2-3x more th…

Prices of some things on Amazon such as hot sauce or soap can be absurdly high, while other times it’s the same as I’d pay at a local store. Definitely not bargains any more. I can’t trust any of the prices I see without double checking them, plus they do that thing where prices fluctuate based on how much they think you might pay. One month some bandages were $9, then $7, then $10, then $13, then $5. Sometimes the hot sauce is a great deal at two large bottles for $12, other times, the same pack is $20 or $15. Dr Bronner’s soap is simply too expensive at twice the price as my local grocery store. I’d just like to know one real price for each of these items.

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To be honest Temu sounds like someone was watching the Wish.com saga and decided it was a great idea to burn a bunch of billions. It can grow a lot while it's new but I have my doubts about longevity of this type "we only sell crap" platforms.

At least in Australia Temu hits the sweet spot of offering almost-China prices with reasonably speedy delivery (under a week). If you buy the same crap on Amazon.au, you pay a 3-4x premium for local warehousing, and if you buy it off AliExpress, it often takes a month or longer to deliver. That said, I presume the only way Temu can pull this off logistically is air freight, so I also have my doubts about his sustaina…

Aliexpress have been great recently with shipping times.

A lot of stuff is dispatched from their local warehouses (or at least flown in from China and consolidated locally) and distributed by their own courier network.

Sounds similar to Temu, and TBH is probably exactly the same network. If you get tracking updates from "Fast Horse Express", it's definitely the same network. :)

Re: Amazon Cuts Dozens of House Brands as It Battles Costs, Regulators

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My last two orders from Amazon were counterfeits. One was a pack of Sandisk thumbdrives that were very obviously fakes. I determined that Amazon simply doesn't care anymore. The value proposition was completely lost because I had to drive into town to return them. Twice in a row. Further, their prices have gotten horrible on a lot of things. I looked at some of their lawncare items, and most of them were 2-3x more th…

I'm just surprised that this hasn't become a big issue for Amazon. Is it that most people aren't aware? Isn't it a big enough story for some news outlet to investigate and report? If it became generally known that a large % of products on amazon are fakes, surely it would affect sales.

I think it's not well known. I've mentioned the counterfeiting problem to several friends, and none of them had heard if it before. For some things, especially any sort of safety related equipment, it makes buying from Amazon a complete non-starter for me because the risk of getting a shoddy fake is literally life and death.

Re: Amazon Cuts Dozens of House Brands as It Battles Costs, Regulators

#67
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My last two orders from Amazon were counterfeits. One was a pack of Sandisk thumbdrives that were very obviously fakes. I determined that Amazon simply doesn't care anymore. The value proposition was completely lost because I had to drive into town to return them. Twice in a row. Further, their prices have gotten horrible on a lot of things. I looked at some of their lawncare items, and most of them were 2-3x more th…

Prices of some things on Amazon such as hot sauce or soap can be absurdly high, while other times it’s the same as I’d pay at a local store. Definitely not bargains any more. I can’t trust any of the prices I see without double checking them, plus they do that thing where prices fluctuate based on how much they think you might pay. One month some bandages were $9, then $7, then $10, then $13, then $5. Sometimes the h…

Unfortunately the real price is what someone is willing to pay. The same people that pay 2x as much for the same McDonald's via Uber Eats are the ones probably paying 2x as much for soap on Amazon for the "convenience" (laziness) factor.

Re: Amazon Cuts Dozens of House Brands as It Battles Costs, Regulators

#68

This is so sad. I live off of Amazon brands, because they're so cheap, convenient, and relatively good quality. I've NEVER had a quality issue from them. Call me a corporate stooge if you want, but their mattresses, clothing, drugs, etc. have been a lifesaver.

Sounds like they’re removing unsuccessful white labels. I haven’t heard of most of these brands.

Basics and Essentials will still be there.

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#69
post #45
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest Temu sounds like someone was watching the Wish.com saga and decided it was a great idea to burn a bunch of billions. It can grow a lot while it's new but I have my doubts about longevity of this type "we only sell crap" platforms.

I've been getting ads on social media to buy silencers on Temu. Ok not silencers, but adapters where one end has the female thread of a soda bottle on it, and the other has the female thread to match the external thread available on a Ruger 10/22. While silencers are federally legal in the U.S., they are illegal in many states and subject to a federal transfer tax. I could see this being a problem for Temu, and I cou…

Silencer or a “WIX fuel filter (wink, wink)”?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Home brands of durable goods in the last 10 years have pretty much always been "Chinese crap" (I use this term loosely, sometimes the products are pretty good). BUT, and this is the key part - buyer teams from major brands vet the supplier, make cost/quality tradeoffs and do all the supplier due diligence (like making them attest the products are not made by "modern slavery", don't have lead in them, etc). They also…

This is the whole problem with Amazon and why I call it a flea market. Other retailers put their reputation on the line with their merchandise. Sure, the same factory that manufactures for Old Navy makes QRYGGS. But Old Navy vets it. Amazon’s issue is that it tosses its hands up and says “Sold by QRYGGS, fulfilled by Amazon.” Amazon says: if it’s garbage, not our fault, but you can return it. That’s just wandering a…

> Amazon says: if it’s garbage, not our fault, but you can return it.

But we will close your account if you return too many things.

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