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This sounds like someone is trying to empire build at GM to create their own version of carplay so they can be promoted.
Imagine the pleasure in 3-4 years when your 130k car plays an advert on the main screen whenever you start your car, a "feature" that can only be disabled if you pay for the 20$/month premium GM+ package that includes GPS map updates and unlocks the sunroof.
Or "I see you're navigating to McDonalds, would you rather go to Burger King and get half off your Whopper meal?"
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Darn. I got excited for a moment thinking that a major car manufacturer was selling a car that didn't have any infotainment features at all. Oh well.
Why wouldn't you want any infotainment features? Surely it's a positive if done well.
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Why wouldn't you want any infotainment features? Surely it's a positive if done well.
It's not something I would ever use, so I don't want to have to pay for it. Its presence also implies that there are other things present that I actively object to, such as a touch screen interface and internet connectivity.
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It's honestly insane. CarPlay does everything I want and the best part is it just works. A large part of that "it just works" is the fact that it's all based directly on my phone. * That restaurant we just decided to go to. Already in navigation. AND! the maps are all current with road closures/traffic issues. * The music that I was playing, it just keeps going * The garage door opener/lock/etc that I just added to H…
> It's honestly insane. CarPlay does everything I want and the best part is it just works. A large part of that "it just works" is the fact that it's all based directly on my phone. The insanity goes both ways: I refuse to use a cellphone, so I will not buy a car that has Android or Apple stuff. Hopefully I'll have other options than this $130k Cadillac, but it's good to know some automakers cater to my preferences t…
I think you are firmly in the minority here and probably not the market they are building for. I bet much less than 1% of people who will buy a car in the next year refuse to use a cell phone.
> Instead of CarPlay or Android Auto, drivers will instead rely on the Escalade IQ’s included Google built-in infotainment software. It's called Android Automotive OS (not to be confused with Android Auto). Many OEMs are now using Android Automotive for infotainment, but also support CarPlay/AA. This is a terrible move, but GM is just trying to copy Tesla by controlling the entire UX and putting it some of it behind…
Darn. I got excited for a moment thinking that a major car manufacturer was selling a car that didn't have any infotainment features at all. Oh well.
To make this even better, route the touch input of the screen back to the device, in some simple way (for example, as a mouse position, not sure of any touch protocols).
Any software has a pretty good chance of getting deprecated or irrelevant during the lifetime of a car. Just think of what is still actively supported in the mobile world from 10 years ago. My 2013 car doesn’t have Android Auto or CarPlay, but has built-in “apps” for Stitcher and Pandora, which I never used. The bluetooth connection still works, but is really flaky with newer iPhone (a 2013 Android worked exceptionally well, however).
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Darn. I got excited for a moment thinking that a major car manufacturer was selling a car that didn't have any infotainment features at all. Oh well.
It's quite possible to do. Get a new Subaru, then get a double DIN dash kit https://www.crutchfield.com/p_003SBK931B/American-Internatio... and then you can ask your car stereo guy for a blank Double DIN plate. It's not out of the box, but you'll block off the screen entirely and you won't have audio or screen or anything except your HUD.
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It's not something I would ever use, so I don't want to have to pay for it. Its presence also implies that there are other things present that I actively object to, such as a touch screen interface and internet connectivity.
Where do you draw the line? I don't know anyone that wants to go back to paper maps for navigation. And backup cameras are unambiguously good for everyone.
The only fancy thing I would like to have in my car is the ability to connect the sound system in it to my phone or computer via bluetooth as if it were headphones -- but I can add that easily as an aftermarket thing with the bonus of having actual knobs on it.
I really only have two reasonably hard lines. I don't want my car to be able to talk with any external servers (it's a car, not a smartphone on wheels), and I don't want a touch screen interface instead of physical knobs and buttons.
The presence of infotainment systems is a pretty solid indication that the car won't satisfy either of those things.