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Re: Sparrow for iPhone

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Post by martingordon »

This is nice, and the lack of push notifications can be seen as a feature – less distractions! One possible solution to that issue is to build a push notification server into the desktop version so they wouldn't have to store your credentials.

One thing that keeps me from using Sparrow for OS X (or any other desktop client) is that they download every email, and I don't want to spare the 7 GB of hard drive space for something I don't need every day. Mail for iOS lets me choose to store only the last X messages on the device, but I haven't seen that option on any desktop client.

Re: Sparrow for iPhone

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Post by joelg87 »

squadron wrote: post #43
joelg87 wrote: post #40

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I can say from my experience so far with Buffer, that it is easy for this to get very hard to keep up with. Seems like they had similar great intentions like us to be amazing at support as well as build a fantastic product. We had a period where our support response time lagged as we reached a certain scale. We've since hired a freelancer for a few hours a day to help us and that's really transformed things to the po…

Buffer is excellent btw. It's become a must use app for me. The iPhone app is seriously awesome too. Very user friendly. You nailed it. I have two Buffer subscriptions, one for myself and one for a client and it has become a must use app. Good work!

Wow, that's awesome to hear, thanks! :-)

We have plans to make the iPhone app even more awesome (and also include more of the functionality of the web app) so stay tuned for that! Not sure if you have an iPad, but that's on the way too.

Fantastic to have you as a paying customer. Get in touch if you ever have any questions or suggestions!

Re: Sparrow for iPhone

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Post by klausa »

martingordon wrote: post #61

This is nice, and the lack of push notifications can be seen as a feature – less distractions! One possible solution to that issue is to build a push notification server into the desktop version so they wouldn't have to store your credentials. One thing that keeps me from using Sparrow for OS X (or any other desktop client) is that they download every email, and I don't want to spare the 7 GB of hard drive space for…

You could emulate that behavior by setting up filters in Mail.app on OS X, that would delete messages older than X days, for what it's worth.

Re: Sparrow for iPhone

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Post by ivanstojic »

sleepyhead wrote: post #37
ivanstojic wrote: post #33

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"swamped ... now" might be an understatement. From the looks of their support page ( https://sparrowmail.tenderapp.com/discussions/questions ) - the last reply actually made by sparrow support was on December 8.

Their support forum is kinda weird. Every time I add a question it ends up as private. I assume that is why there is a lack of public activity there.

As I understand it, the answers are marked as public once an actual answer is reached.

Re: Sparrow for iPhone

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Post by goddamnhippie »

martingordon wrote: post #61

This is nice, and the lack of push notifications can be seen as a feature – less distractions! One possible solution to that issue is to build a push notification server into the desktop version so they wouldn't have to store your credentials. One thing that keeps me from using Sparrow for OS X (or any other desktop client) is that they download every email, and I don't want to spare the 7 GB of hard drive space for…

Sparrow for Mac has the option to chose to download messages on demand. It's on Preferences > Advanced.

Re: Sparrow for iPhone

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Post by brown9-2 »

mike-cardwell wrote: post #51
dsplittgerber wrote: post #50

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I was seriously shocked to see that the iPhone's native client leaked that bad. 2 questions: 1) Is it possible for an app to leak less? 2) Is the 'leakage' already commonly exploited by firms for specific means? (proving you saw something etc.) If anyone could help, that'd be awesome!

My understanding (I don't have an iOS device) is that the standard iOS email client has remote images enabled by default, and if you turn that off, then it doesn't leak at all. I think all email clients should have the option to automatically load remote images, but that it should be disabled by default. The problem is, users don't understand that by clicking the "load remote images" button, it will be possible to tr…

You are correct about iOS. On my iPhone 4 with iOS 5.1, with remote images enabled (by default) it leaks 17 out of 32 categories. With remote images disabled, it leaks 0 out of 32 categories.

In contrast, Outlook for Mac 2011 leaks 2 out of 32 categories (audio and video) with remote images disabled. Mail.app 4.5 leaks 14 out of 32 categories with remote images disabled.

Re: Sparrow for iPhone

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Post by mike-cardwell »

brown9-2 wrote: post #66
mike-cardwell wrote: post #51

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My understanding (I don't have an iOS device) is that the standard iOS email client has remote images enabled by default, and if you turn that off, then it doesn't leak at all. I think all email clients should have the option to automatically load remote images, but that it should be disabled by default. The problem is, users don't understand that by clicking the "load remote images" button, it will be possible to tr…

You are correct about iOS. On my iPhone 4 with iOS 5.1, with remote images enabled (by default) it leaks 17 out of 32 categories. With remote images disabled, it leaks 0 out of 32 categories. In contrast, Outlook for Mac 2011 leaks 2 out of 32 categories (audio and video) with remote images disabled. Mail.app 4.5 leaks 14 out of 32 categories with remote images disabled.

The iPhone used to leak audio and video too, when images were disabled. I bug reported that ages ago and they fixed it after a few months.

Do you intend to file bug reports for Outlook and Mail.app?

EDIT: I just asked somebody who has Mail.app version 5.2 to test with remote images disabled, and it didn't trigger any of the tests.

Re: Sparrow for iPhone

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Post by natesm »

tomkr wrote: post #5
_frog wrote: post #4

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To take the cynical standpoint, it's hardly in their best interests to make a first-class app for a competing platform.

Why not? If Google gives me a crappy mail app on my iPhone I am definitely not switching to Android. On the other hand, if it is high quality I may actually be tempted to switch.

Indeed, Microsoft continually puts out great iPhone apps (with a visual style that I wish was the standard on iOS).

Re: Sparrow for iPhone

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Post by martingordon »

klausa wrote: post #63
martingordon wrote: post #61

This is nice, and the lack of push notifications can be seen as a feature – less distractions! One possible solution to that issue is to build a push notification server into the desktop version so they wouldn't have to store your credentials. One thing that keeps me from using Sparrow for OS X (or any other desktop client) is that they download every email, and I don't want to spare the 7 GB of hard drive space for…

You could emulate that behavior by setting up filters in Mail.app on OS X, that would delete messages older than X days, for what it's worth.

Wouldn't that also delete the from my IMAP server (in my case, Gmail)? I'd also be worried about deleting the messages from my [All Mail] folder, which is what I have a real issue with (my inbox is rarely very large).
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