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Uninstall the NightOwl app

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Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

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"WHEREAS, NightOwl app enables Users to share internet traffic by modifying their device’s network settings to be used as a gateway for internet traffic. Additionally, the User’s device acts as a gateway for NightOwl app’s Clients, including companies that specialize in web and market research, SEO, brand protection, content delivery, cybersecurity, etc." Fuck that with a chainsaw. Burn it. Burn it with fire.

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> Isn't this sort of what the web is for? Service providers give you shiny objects for free and in exchange you give them complete access to your digital life.

If you made it clear you were being sarcastic, you wouldn't be getting downvoted.

Yes this is what many businesses want you to think. The web isn't for anything in particular besides general communication bound only by the laws beyond the first amendment.

Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

#63
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't this happen to paid apps just as easily?

If the developer is well paid, probably not? Why would they throw away what they built for a lump sum if they have decent side-business and recurrent revenues?

If I offer you 100 years worth of revenue for your browser extension are you really not going to entertain the idea of selling?

Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

#64

"WHEREAS, NightOwl app enables Users to share internet traffic by modifying their device’s network settings to be used as a gateway for internet traffic. Additionally, the User’s device acts as a gateway for NightOwl app’s Clients, including companies that specialize in web and market research, SEO, brand protection, content delivery, cybersecurity, etc." Fuck that with a chainsaw. Burn it. Burn it with fire.

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I love you to death, but this 'aint helping.

Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

#65

"WHEREAS, NightOwl app enables Users to share internet traffic by modifying their device’s network settings to be used as a gateway for internet traffic. Additionally, the User’s device acts as a gateway for NightOwl app’s Clients, including companies that specialize in web and market research, SEO, brand protection, content delivery, cybersecurity, etc." Fuck that with a chainsaw. Burn it. Burn it with fire.

So, usually I associate super-shady things with hiding the fact that they're super-shady. I'm thankful, but also genuinely curious, why they put this explicitly in their TOS. It just kind of seems to be like the kind of person/org who would implement this shady stuff in the first place, would also actively hide that they're doing it. Is there a legal reason that protects NightOwl by explicitly putting it in the TOS?…

>I'm thankful, but also genuinely curious, why they put this explicitly in their TOS.

The guy's in the US, not China or Cyprus, so there's actually a chance he could get in trouble.

Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

#66

"WHEREAS, NightOwl app enables Users to share internet traffic by modifying their device’s network settings to be used as a gateway for internet traffic. Additionally, the User’s device acts as a gateway for NightOwl app’s Clients, including companies that specialize in web and market research, SEO, brand protection, content delivery, cybersecurity, etc." Fuck that with a chainsaw. Burn it. Burn it with fire.

So, usually I associate super-shady things with hiding the fact that they're super-shady. I'm thankful, but also genuinely curious, why they put this explicitly in their TOS. It just kind of seems to be like the kind of person/org who would implement this shady stuff in the first place, would also actively hide that they're doing it. Is there a legal reason that protects NightOwl by explicitly putting it in the TOS?…

My assumption is there is a non-trivial number of people who will never read or notice that. Much less understand the ramifications.

Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

#67

> sudo zsh -c "rm /Users/*/Library/LaunchAgents/NightOwlUpdater.plist" Why do you need to call out to zsh for this command instead of just running it in the current shell?

Because the expansion of the wildcard needs to happen with the privileges granted by sudo. If you just ran "sudo rm ..." the expansion would be done by the current shell, which doesn't have the required privileges.

Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the problem with free apps. Very few people want to donate, no decent company is interested in buying the app and making it profitable, so all that's left are the worst kind of companies who buy these extensions and apps to exploit the users. All these free apps have value but unfortunately it doesn't translate to any income for the developer so they find other ways.

Couldn't this happen to paid apps just as easily?

Seems like a developer that is getting literally nothing for his app or plugin is more likely to sell it than a developer that's getting some income from it. At the least, the buyer would need to match the current value that the app provides its author.
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