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Re: Brave Search launches own image and video search

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No mention of reverse image search sadly. I've been looking for anything better than Google/yandex forever.

Bing visual search is great. I use it in cryptic hunts a bunch. Would of course prefer a non-MS offering though, I hope one comes along that's equally good.

Re: Brave Search launches own image and video search

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post #50

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I wonder what's different about our searches and expectations. I've been using Brave as a default for 1y+ and I still get consistently bad results compared to Google. The only reason it's remotely competitive is how much Google itself has declined in quality. A recent example from my search history, "doors of stone release date". The author has announced a new novella releasing Nov. 2023, but not the actual book Door…

Overall Brave search has been good for me. I have been using it as the default on every PC / Browser I utilize. I will say there are times when it just falls flat. Like I will search for a brand or specific thing , expecting to get to the home / login page for that brand, and it just flat out gives me weird results. But when I put the !g in front of the query, the first result is always what I wanted. On the other th…

> I will say there are times when it just falls flat. Like I will search for a brand or specific thing , expecting to get to the home / login page for that brand, and it just flat out gives me weird results.

Conjecture: that might have to do with filtering SEO'd results. It is probably difficult to get rid of the pages that are meant to look a whole like the legit brand pages but not get rid the brand page itself.

Re: Brave Search launches own image and video search

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post #34

As far as I can tell, that makes for 5 independent image search engines on the web: Baidu Bing Brave Google Yandex You can compare their results on this search comparison page I maintain: https://www.gnod.com/search/?engines=p,o,br,n,q&nw=1 (If you want to also search image libraries like Flickr and Pexels, click on "more engines" to select all places you want to search)

Brave is the one that censors less, from all those. Specially doesn't censor for political motives that I'm aware of.

That already makes it worth of support.

But Google having become so bad of late has made switching quite easy, even if brave is not getting better super fast, Google unfortunately is getting worse and making up for it.

Re: Brave Search launches own image and video search

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>I wonder what's different about our searches and expectations. The difference might be that they (including myself) don't ask search engines for facts like "doors of stone release date". They'll search for "doors of stone", find personally reliable sources like Wikipedia, Fandom, Goodreads, browse them and decide on an answer. When sources fail to appear, they'll either refine the search (like "doors of stone rothfu…

Yea I do enjoy that new(ish) discussions section feature. Anecdotally have found those to return more relevant results than the old site:reddit.com in google

The brave results are usually relevant for me, but I find it struggles when I'm looking for something very specific. Their indexing of reddit seems to have a lot of gaps when compared with Google.

Re: Brave Search launches own image and video search

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post #17

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Bing hiding "tank man" is not "woke" by any common definition of the term. Got a reference on the Google incident? Sounds like misinformation.

There are a few references online if you search for '"american inventors" "google"' or something. For obvious reasons it was never covered in any tech blog. https://twitter.com/Micki_Harbour/status/894871335104630784 https://old.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/88a5hv/is_somethi...

This is irrelevant.

How many references to e.g. Edison will you find online, remarking that he was "white"? In a context of ethnic debate in the US, mentioning "white" anything, will most likely revolve around "black" anything.

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post #34

As far as I can tell, that makes for 5 independent image search engines on the web: Baidu Bing Brave Google Yandex You can compare their results on this search comparison page I maintain: https://www.gnod.com/search/?engines=p,o,br,n,q&nw=1 (If you want to also search image libraries like Flickr and Pexels, click on "more engines" to select all places you want to search)

Brave is the one that censors less, from all those. Specially doesn't censor for political motives that I'm aware of. That already makes it worth of support. But Google having become so bad of late has made switching quite easy, even if brave is not getting better super fast, Google unfortunately is getting worse and making up for it.

> Specially doesn't censor for political motives that I'm aware of

What are the censored image searches you found?

Re: Brave Search launches own image and video search

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post #34

As far as I can tell, that makes for 5 independent image search engines on the web: Baidu Bing Brave Google Yandex You can compare their results on this search comparison page I maintain: https://www.gnod.com/search/?engines=p,o,br,n,q&nw=1 (If you want to also search image libraries like Flickr and Pexels, click on "more engines" to select all places you want to search)

ahrefs

c.f. yep.com

Re: Brave Search launches own image and video search

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post #34

As far as I can tell, that makes for 5 independent image search engines on the web: Baidu Bing Brave Google Yandex You can compare their results on this search comparison page I maintain: https://www.gnod.com/search/?engines=p,o,br,n,q&nw=1 (If you want to also search image libraries like Flickr and Pexels, click on "more engines" to select all places you want to search)

Brave is the one that censors less, from all those. Specially doesn't censor for political motives that I'm aware of. That already makes it worth of support. But Google having become so bad of late has made switching quite easy, even if brave is not getting better super fast, Google unfortunately is getting worse and making up for it.

I have a deeeeeeep dislike for Google’s “must include: duck | missing: duck”.

Re: Brave Search launches own image and video search

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post #46

I'm always staying away from Brave because I've been confronted so many times with bait-and-switch tactics that I have the feeling that one day they will move away from being good and monetize all the collected data, even though they don't collect data. I'm so skeptical that I'm just now starting to develop a feeling of trust towards DuckDuckGo. In the browser domain, Mozilla is the only company of which I feel that…

You should check these assumptions, Mozilla has been hard at work enshittifying their entire portfolio. Instead of giving the public features they actually want (the most secure, performant, and predictable web browser), the current CEO has directed the focus towards revenue-generating features. My god, there is so much telemetry in FF now, and it's tricky to hunt down all the about:configs to disable it. Not friendl…

> the current CEO has directed the focus towards revenue-generating features.

They literally can't win. One group of vocal users is outraged by how much money Mozilla takes from Google while the other half screams about how Mozilla is trying to gasp gain additional revenue streams that isn't taking money from their biggest competitor.

> Do you really want Mozilla to get pinged with your IP address every time your browser process starts and exits? Yuck!

No, but I really don't give a shit either. At a certain point, I looked in the mirror and said life is too short to care about stupid shit like that. If I was a spy or a journalist in some state like China or Iran, maybe I would care. But this feels odd to hone in on when any website you go to is collecting all sorts of info of this sort.

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