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Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by OJFord »

Kiro wrote: post #28
frfl wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the Wikipedia page was just updated, following this post, but it's fairly clear right now. It says fairly clearly in the infobox, "Jensen Huang (表舅 or first cousin once removed)"

"once removed" is not clear at all. To me, it reads like nonsense.

It's a standard term. I'll assume you're familiar with 'cousin' (in the strict English/western sense), aka (rarely, only really in contradistinction) 'first cousin'.

1. Your parents' [first] cousins' children are your 'second cousins';

2. Your parents' second cousins' children are your 'third cousins' (and so on);

3. Your parents' [first] cousins are your '[first] cousins once removed';

4. Your parents' second cousins are your 'second cousins once removed' (and so on);

5. Your parents' [first] cousins once removed are your '[first] cousins twice removed' (and so on).

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by lukaesch »

I met him in person at the Nvidia AI inception event in Berlin a few weeks ago.

Very friendly and down to earth personality. He said that Nvidia had tough competition when he started (there was only on chip graphics acceleration in 1994) and literally no market for his product because no applications/games supported external graphic acceleration. Still, he and his team were convinced that general purpose computing (CPUs) for everything is not as good as providing a dedicated, specialized computing unit (in this case for graphics). So they just built it and made it. Even though they were nearly bankrupt for multiple times, they survived until 2023 and established themselves as a leader in their field.

He basically worked on this for 30 years. Not many founders show the same endurance.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by lm28469 »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #2

The wiki does a bad job of clarifying what the relationship is (wth does "first cousin once removed" even mean?). Here's a family tree: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-f... Still, I always loved how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions, starting or leading top US companies, something that never/rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the "n…

> how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions

What's your definition of "always" ?

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Post by gambiting »

kaashif wrote: post #16
cosmojg wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, both my English-speaking and Italian-speaking family use "uncle" and "aunt" with a similar amount of ambiguity. It's a term of respect for elder family members, extended or otherwise.

On the other hand, I've never heard of uncle meaning any family member other than the brother of a parent. At the very least, we can agree that using "uncle" like this is incredibly easily misinterpreted.

In my family every single male relative is an uncle(and every female is an aunt).

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

whimsicalism wrote: post #14
doytch wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Language probably plays a non-insignificant role. I'd hazard a guess that more Indians and Chinese (the nationalities that are fairly well-represented in US leadership positions) are learning English than German, Polish or Slovak.

Europe also largely just has a less pluralistic and diverse society than the coastal US. Difficult to get the exact stats because it is illegal to measure demographic breakdowns in many European countries.

>because it is illegal to measure demographic breakdowns in many European countries

It really isn't illegal to measure, where did you come up with that?

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Post by vladvasiliu »

throwawayadvsec wrote: post #22
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #2

The wiki does a bad job of clarifying what the relationship is (wth does "first cousin once removed" even mean?). Here's a family tree: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-f... Still, I always loved how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions, starting or leading top US companies, something that never/rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the "n…

The US are a younger country and it's full of immigrants/children of immigrants. Most of the money here is old money. There are dozens of implicit rules. In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you'll get into a top school than being rich. Because you have to know all the tricks in the book to get anywhere. From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, appl…

> In France, most immigrants kids don't even know the possible paths to get into a top school.

What do you mean? As an immigrant to France when I was in 3rd grade [0], I knew in a couple of months that I had to go to a good high-school, to get into a good prep school, to get into a good grande école. Everybody knows this. And everybody knows how to get there: be good at math, and have good grades in general.

[0] In France, school grades are "reversed". Grades 6 to 3 are "collège" / middle school / junior high. Grades 2, 1, "terminal" are high-school.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by eldaisfish »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #2

The wiki does a bad job of clarifying what the relationship is (wth does "first cousin once removed" even mean?). Here's a family tree: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-f... Still, I always loved how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions, starting or leading top US companies, something that never/rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the "n…

Immigration is a choice and this acts as a filter. Second - the USA and many new world societies are not built around ethnicity. This means that hard work has a decent return on investment. In the old world, who you are and whom you know are often more important than your skills.

European society is constructed around sharply defined ethnic groups, often identified by name and appearance. Ethnicity cannot be changed.

Curiously, Indians and Chinese nationals tend to do well in the USA because their motherlands are poor. This means that only the most well off can even contemplate moving to the USA. Obviously, these folks do well relative to poorer immigrants. Europe's other problem is that it attracts mostly low skilled, older immigrants.

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Post by agloe_dreams »

gok wrote: post #8

Well that's gotta be an awkward family dinner.

Eh, I bet they are actually quite friendly. Supposedly they both are very nice and I would argue that nobody understands each other's life better than each other. Plus, much of all of this is to their own gain. If AMD killed their GPU division, then Nvidia would be a monopoly and might get broken up or stagnate so a different company could swoop in and kill them. AMD's bet on TSMC is NVIDIA's 4090 gains.
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