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Ice core scientists in East Greenland reach bedrock

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Re: Ice core scientists in East Greenland reach bedrock

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Interesting: "Towards the base, the ice is more than 120,000 years old and dates back to the last interglacial period, a time when the atmospheric temperature above Greenland was 5°C warmer than today."

I'm not a scientist so I'm curious why this is interesting.

It's not scientifically interesting, the glacial-interglacial cycles are pretty well established. I'm guessing they're trying to insinuate some climate change minimalism argument.

Re: Ice core scientists in East Greenland reach bedrock

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Interesting: "Towards the base, the ice is more than 120,000 years old and dates back to the last interglacial period, a time when the atmospheric temperature above Greenland was 5°C warmer than today."

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Although indeed the temperatures and GHG have been lower and higher on Earth before, that was never with the amount of humans we have now. Our economy and society is quite optimised and our infrastructure hubs are largely located on coasts. Our prosperity also relies on a large amount of sophisticated technology that is hard to replace and to bootstrap.

So although the human species will probably survive a drastic climate change, many individuals will not due to famine, lack of medical supplies and care, and war over the remaining resources.

Re: Ice core scientists in East Greenland reach bedrock

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post #7

Interesting: "Towards the base, the ice is more than 120,000 years old and dates back to the last interglacial period, a time when the atmospheric temperature above Greenland was 5°C warmer than today."

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It is also because it will result in incredible levels of migration and competition for resources in the short term (ie wars). Yes, humanity will survive but it might make global shocks like the pandemic seem very tepid by comparison.

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Given that Greenland regularly gains surface mass, even this year gaining close to 50 gigatons as of June 20th: https://nsidc.org/greenland-today/files/2023/06/SMB_Fig3_15J... , you might have to wait a few more millenia or even another 100K before the next interglacial.

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Re: Ice core scientists in East Greenland reach bedrock

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post #7

Interesting: "Towards the base, the ice is more than 120,000 years old and dates back to the last interglacial period, a time when the atmospheric temperature above Greenland was 5°C warmer than today."

I'm not a scientist so I'm curious why this is interesting.

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Re: Ice core scientists in East Greenland reach bedrock

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post #7

Interesting: "Towards the base, the ice is more than 120,000 years old and dates back to the last interglacial period, a time when the atmospheric temperature above Greenland was 5°C warmer than today."

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The earth may have survived those changes, but not all its inhabitants may have. So there definitely is still reason to worry as far as humanity is concerned.

The major ecological shifts may bring change humanity does not bounce back from.

Re: Ice core scientists in East Greenland reach bedrock

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Interesting: "Towards the base, the ice is more than 120,000 years old and dates back to the last interglacial period, a time when the atmospheric temperature above Greenland was 5°C warmer than today."

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>>"The doomsday cult saying we are all going to die, or that every single heat wave and natural disaster can be pinned on extra carbon, are just yet another in a long line of apocalyptic predictors"

The problem with this argument is that 'humans' surviving, is different than 'our nice comfortable human society' surviving.

Yes, the human species as an animal that can survive by foraging, probably will survive. That isn't a great argument.

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Would it theoreticaly possible to find frozen animals 120.000 years old with still intact DNA?

Yeah, DNA in ice has a half-life of a million years. Seems very much possible.

Where are you getting that figure? Everything I had ever read on the subject puts the half-life at more like 500 (five-hundred) years. While doing a quick double-check for this comment, it seems there was one sample with the unexpectedly long observed half-life of 15,000 years, still a couple orders of magnitude less than a million years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_DNA#Non-human_aDNA

Re: Ice core scientists in East Greenland reach bedrock

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Interesting: "Towards the base, the ice is more than 120,000 years old and dates back to the last interglacial period, a time when the atmospheric temperature above Greenland was 5°C warmer than today."

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I’m not aware of any data that supports humans 120k years ago having a significant impact on the earths climate.

I think even our ability to start fire at will is conclusively known to be only ~50,000 years ago.

Re: Ice core scientists in East Greenland reach bedrock

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post #56
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Y is a vowel?

English rules for using "a" or "an" depend on sounds used in the next word, not particular letters. "A unit" and "An hour" are easy examples that might trip people up when focused on the letters used in spelling, but if you sound it out, you can probably work out what sounds best.

And of course it's even more complex when you mix UK vs US English:

- an herb (US), where the "h" is silent

- a herb (UK)

Cue confusion about "an historic".

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