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Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by throwaway290 »

sparky_z wrote: post #52
throwaway290 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So yes, she became engaged to someone who tried to save her life from the police. Uhm, after that "someone" joined a gang and took her hostage in order to steal money? If that's logical that sounds like a problem, whether theory is shoddy science or not the thing is real if even you, not victim, fall into that delusion. People can be thankful to someone who improves things even if that someone creates the horrible…

It may be a mistake, but does it that make it a "syndrome"?

where did I call it a syndrome?

If you justify her marrying the guy because he saved her from police, and you completely sideline that he needed to save her from police because he took her hostage during robbery and police came for that criminal, sorry that's just idiotic.

You can justify marrying the person who put you in direct danger of death for whatever irrational things like emotion, sexual attraction whatever, but you must acknowledge that it's highly illogical and quite worthy of a close look, if the original stockholm syndrome study is complete bullshit then someone else should do a better job at describing this bias.

Edit: thankfully, it turns out all that about marrying the hostage taker is false. (The logic in comment I replied to remains stupid though)

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by ferrous69 »

eastof wrote: post #47
piuantiderp wrote: post #40

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Bro, no one with a clue goes to Texas for tacos. Maybe Cali, but I don't bother for the most part in the US. Am Mexican

Just curious, have you had tacos in El Paso? As a non-expert, strikes me as a place that would have good tacos since half the city is in Mexico.

there are good tacos all over Texas. Def in El Paso. El Cometa is a chain that's on both sides of the border. Idk what that guy is on about.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by ethbr0 »

dopidopHN wrote: post #37
ethbr0 wrote: post #35

> (on Paris Syndrome uniquely afflicting Japanese tourists) Or it could be the jarring confrontation of the a priori ideal of Paris as exotic and friendly with the rather more abrasive nature of the city’s inhabitants. Having visited Tokyo (which I assume is the most Paris-like Japan gets?) and Paris (just got back from most recent trip), this rings true. Average "mild annoyance" from a Parisian would equal "severe d…

The tacos you saw are a riff on kebab. They are tacos in name only. ( TINO if you like )

I noticed there were French tacos (TINOs), but it seemed like the "taco" popularity was leading to a few closer-to-Tex-Mex taco places as well.

This was around the Bastille, so maybe hipster culture?

Overall, a decent attempt, but the salsa was a miss (no cilantro? and not sure what they did to the tomatoes) and the seasonings were still very French.

The irony is afaict, France has all of the ingredients needed. In typically amazingly-fresh-and-delicious French fashion.

But hey, it was still a better take than the Italian Tex-Mex I had in New England -- cinnamon on tortilla chips?!

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by ethbr0 »

Swizec wrote: post #48
ethbr0 wrote: post #35

> (on Paris Syndrome uniquely afflicting Japanese tourists) Or it could be the jarring confrontation of the a priori ideal of Paris as exotic and friendly with the rather more abrasive nature of the city’s inhabitants. Having visited Tokyo (which I assume is the most Paris-like Japan gets?) and Paris (just got back from most recent trip), this rings true. Average "mild annoyance" from a Parisian would equal "severe d…

> but even as an American with extremely bad and limited French, most people were very nice The trick to Paris, I’ve found, is to start with broken French and then suddenly everyone speaks fluent English. But if you start with English you’re screwed. Even saying “Bonjour” with a decent accent (you can learn it like a song almost) will make them significantly nicer to you. But yeah don’t expect a big city person to ac…

100% agreed. Starting with bad French + a self-deprecating expression = much more helpful Parisians

The kids and I joked about how pleasantly lyrical all French greetings are. You have to try to make "Bonjour" not sound nice.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by ethbr0 »

ferrous69 wrote: post #63
eastof wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious, have you had tacos in El Paso? As a non-expert, strikes me as a place that would have good tacos since half the city is in Mexico.

there are good tacos all over Texas. Def in El Paso. El Cometa is a chain that's on both sides of the border. Idk what that guy is on about.

Hell, I'll even put Taco Bueno up against any other pan-US cheap quasi-taco chain.

It's bad Tex-Mex, but at least it's recognizable.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by piuantiderp »

brookside wrote: post #60
piuantiderp wrote: post #40

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Bro, no one with a clue goes to Texas for tacos. Maybe Cali, but I don't bother for the most part in the US. Am Mexican

This mysticism about food only being good or authentic in one place doesn't match up with modern internationalism and global supply chains. There are cooks/chefs from one culture/place in the world living in other spots.

Yes, like one of the best contemporary Mexican chefs lives in the UK of all places. But we're not talking about this broadly.

You talk about the possibility, that it could exist in Texas, and I'm telling you no, in my experience, not in Texas.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by fatfingerd »

brookside wrote: post #60
piuantiderp wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bro, no one with a clue goes to Texas for tacos. Maybe Cali, but I don't bother for the most part in the US. Am Mexican

This mysticism about food only being good or authentic in one place doesn't match up with modern internationalism and global supply chains. There are cooks/chefs from one culture/place in the world living in other spots.

Yet regions ruin dishes and then locals from that region complain if anyone makes a good version of them, so it can be extremely hard to find an edible X, especially as a visiting tourist.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by cguess »

Doches wrote: post #39
ethbr0 wrote: post #35

> (on Paris Syndrome uniquely afflicting Japanese tourists) Or it could be the jarring confrontation of the a priori ideal of Paris as exotic and friendly with the rather more abrasive nature of the city’s inhabitants. Having visited Tokyo (which I assume is the most Paris-like Japan gets?) and Paris (just got back from most recent trip), this rings true. Average "mild annoyance" from a Parisian would equal "severe d…

It's hard to pick up on as an American, but "French Tacos" actually don't have any genealogy in common with Tex-Mex tacos. They're essentially north African shwarma (lamb kebab, fries, cheese sauce, lettuce shoved in a wrap) re-marketed in a way that doesn't invoke knee-jerk racism from the French mainstream. Calling them "tacos" lets them get away with being exotic, and since the average Français doesn't really have…

Norway is this too. I tried to make actual Tex-mex ground beef tacos for some friends and they were abhorred by it.
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