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Bookwyrm – A federated social network for reading books

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Re: Bookwyrm – A federated social network for reading books

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Ok, hard truth time: My step mom is in her 60s, a prolific reader, member of two book clubs and most of her friends are readers. She would never think about joining Bookwyrm because the value prop makes no sense to her. Why does anyone care about federated? (I’m talking normal people here.) Mastodon, Pleroma? What are those? Who cares? Why? (Again, talking as normal people here, the kind of people you’d talk to waiti…

> It’s also unnecessary as a sales tool because what would “pro-corporate” mean in the context of a book social network?

Does whatever maximizes Amazon's short-term profits, probably.

Re: Bookwyrm – A federated social network for reading books

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"Track your reading and what your friends are reading" sounds like classic social network bullshit dopamine trap. Like brag about acheivements in how many have you read through this month or be sad about how stupid/lazy you are while others are so smart and gritty. They should better offer sharing quotes/highlights/remarks/explanations/summaries/follow-ups and discussing these.

This is true. But I also enjoy reading things people I know have read / are reading, so that I can talk about it with them.

Sure. I'm just trying to be grumpy to excuse suggesting an idea :-)

Re: Bookwyrm – A federated social network for reading books

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There’s also Storygraph, a smaller, independent GoodReads alternative. It’s gotten some positive coverage, and I’ve had a good experience using it. https://www.thestorygraph.com/

+1 to StoryGraph. I'm a big fan.

I had the pleasure of seeing the CEO of StoryGraph, Nadia Odunayo, at a Ruby conference a year or so ago. She was a keynote speaker and she was absolutely wonderful.

Nadia gave a presentation on encountering a Ruby bug, but presented it as a mystery story with chapters and narrative storytelling. Definitely one of the best, entertaining presentations I've seen in a long time.

Re: Bookwyrm – A federated social network for reading books

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It’s got a very ideologically-driven focus, including an anti-capital source license: https://github.com/bookwyrm-social/bookwyrm/blob/main/LICENS... I think the focus on federation is to encourage small, decentralized and communally operated sites that play well with the broader fediverse. I can see that working well for a lot of book communities! Also, spent a bit of time a few weeks ago and it already seemed to ha…

Well, that's a license I've never seen before! This makes it entirely unpractical for any company to host a server, which is an... interesting approach. I'm not sure why the police or military wouldn't be allowed to host a book reading website, though. I guess this was written as some kind of anti-government protest.

> I'm not sure why the police or military wouldn't be allowed to host a book reading website, though.

Many religions have an injunction against killing or otherwise contributing to the harm of sentient beings.

Re: Bookwyrm – A federated social network for reading books

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Goodreads is a pretty bad site overall. Its good for tracking which books you've read I guess, but I don't think its better than a google doc sheet. The average reader there doesn't really have good taste in books. You are honestly better off just using a google doc to track your books, and use /lit/ for discussions and recommendations, since /lit/ has much higher quality reviews, and discussions than good reads. May…

And it’s owned by Amazon, who have no incentive to make it any better than it is.

Re: Bookwyrm – A federated social network for reading books

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"Track your reading and what your friends are reading" sounds like classic social network bullshit dopamine trap. Like brag about acheivements in how many have you read through this month or be sad about how stupid/lazy you are while others are so smart and gritty. They should better offer sharing quotes/highlights/remarks/explanations/summaries/follow-ups and discussing these.

There are filter bubbles and then there are positive effects from recommendation engines. I'm terrified of the former but I personally love how much music Spotify and even Youtube have introduced me to. And since I find it quite annoying to start a book that I end up disliking, I would love a functional recommendation engine for that.

Re: Bookwyrm – A federated social network for reading books

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One benefit to federation in book-focused social media is it helps stop Amazon from buying the centralized services. They bought Goodreads and Shelfari. It's great to know they won't be buying the book-iverse.

What’s wrong with Amazon? They made it possible for self published writers to actually make a living. They disrupted the big five publishers and have done a lot for independent writers. Even the indy bookstores require an author to go through corporate publishing gatekeepers. Amazon gives literally any writer an opportunity to sell books.

I use Amazon a lot, but that doesn't change the rot that set in for Goodreads after Amazon bought them.
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