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The Death of Infosec Twitter

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Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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post #38

All of the infosec people I follow have moved to Mastodon. As someone with primarily tech related interests, I'm currently finding Mastodon as good or better than Twitter at it's prime.

What I dislike about Mastodon is how people talk about "moving to Mastodon". Unlike Twitter, FB etc. you don't just "move to Mastodon"... you move to some ActivityPub server. Which one? They don't want you to know I guess? Edit: thanks for the pointers!

I mean... strictly speaking yes, but for most practical purposes it hardly matters, surely?

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

#62
post #46

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Don't forget that Twitter was actively censoring Mastodon links and preventing users from putting them in their Twitter profiles: https://mastodon.social/@danluu/109521316258129814

I'm more about tech people casually dropping they moved to Mastodon, us techies kinda get Mastodon is not a single place like Twitter so the only explanation for not saying "I moved from Twitter to such or such community" is not wanting people to know.

> us techies kinda get Mastodon is not a single place like Twitter so the only explanation for not saying "I moved from Twitter to such or such community" is not wanting people to know.

Eh? There are _some_ Mastodon instances which are to some a community distinct from Mastodon writ large, but that's not most of them. I moved from Twitter initially to mastodon.online (one of the giant ones, not really a community at all), then to mastodon.ie (the generic Ireland one; marginally a community, but only very marginally), and reserve the right to move further if appropriate. But I don't see why anyone would care about the distinction between them, really.

Generally, I would assume it's less not wanting people to know, and more that it's irrelevant detail. I think this is maybe a common point of confusion over Mastodon; for most people, for most purposes, the instance _simply does not matter_. There are some generally very small instances which are highly focused on specific communities (and may even require that user content revolves largely around those communities) but those are rare; I'd expect under 1% of the user ship. For most people Mastodon is the community, not their instance.

If someone says "I used to do business mostly by post and fax, but now do it mostly by email" you wouldn't go "ah, but are you using gmail or hotmail? It must be a conspiracy because you don't want to tell us!" They don't name the email provider because it is _irrelevant_.

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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post #13

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> As it stands now the "fediverse" resembles a collection of islands with various shifting bonds between coalitions where those from coalition A shun those from coalitions B and C.

Hrm, what makes you believe that? There are a _few_ largely disconnected instances, but, in particular, the vast majority of instances in terms of usership (excepting intentional islands like Truth Social and Gab, and that one Japanese one) do federate with the giant instances like mastodon.social and similar, tying the whole thing together. In general, if you're using a "normal" instance (ie either one of the big ones or one moderated in a similar way) you can see most other users and most other users can see you. It's only if you're on either a service which everyone wants to block (rare, mostly small Nazi-oriented ones or ones which tolerate cryptospammers) or a service who blocks practically everyone (overly trigger-happy; these tend to rapidly wither and die) that you're isolated.

> it would be far less damaging to the structure of the "fediverse" if that blocking was user-based instead of site-based

Both are options. Defederation, for most instances, is the nuclear option, not the first tool in the box.

I do think at some point it's somewhat likely that there'll be a Muskian 'free speech' shadow fediverse (ie the sort of place Mr Cat Turd would be proud to call home), which will be largely detached from the main one but will federate amongst itself. There's some indication this is kind of developing already (many of the instances that nearly everyone blocks do federate with _each other_). Lots of viable islands seems less likely, though.

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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translation: al-qaeda had a twitter account before the mediocre-man with a middle-life crisis accidentally bought it. Now the nazis have accounts there.

Translation: I only care about what my political enemy is doing will turn a blind eye everything else

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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post #31
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You might be interested in this piece of news: Taliban leader praises Elon Musk and Twitter over Threads for 'freedom of speech' [0] [0]: https://www.wionews.com/south-asia/taliban-leader-praises-el...

If you’re unable to find any thing, your enemy does right, you’ll never earn the respect of their followers.

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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post #15
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I suspect your reasoning is also motivated, though I don’t know by what. There are things I’ll give credit for. I suspect the “community notes” feature is overall beneficial (though I haven’t seen it much firsthand because I use a very outdated version of the application, which doesn’t support it.). Also, making the code for the recommendation algorithm publicly readable was very cool, and I appreciate it. The way th…

It’s not a Nazi dominated hellhole like everyone exaggerating is saying it is. It’s the exact same thing as it was. you can hate Elon Musk without automatically hating everything he owns because there’s a lot more people that work there than just him it’s pretty shortsighted to condemn all those people for the actions of one billionaire

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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post #38

All of the infosec people I follow have moved to Mastodon. As someone with primarily tech related interests, I'm currently finding Mastodon as good or better than Twitter at it's prime.

What I dislike about Mastodon is how people talk about "moving to Mastodon". Unlike Twitter, FB etc. you don't just "move to Mastodon"... you move to some ActivityPub server. Which one? They don't want you to know I guess? Edit: thanks for the pointers!

But they're specifically moving to Mastodon (infosec.exchange and defcon.social), which is not the same as moving to Lemmy, KBin, or PixelFed. For example, Lemmy federates with KBin, but not with Mastodon. Kbin federates both with Lemmy and Mastodon. Also, Mastodon has a Twitter-like UX, while Lemmy/Kbin have a Reddit-like UX. PixelFed has a Flickr-like UX.

It makes a difference, and insisting on calling them ActivityPub or Fediverse servers has strong GNU/Linux vibes, which we should probably avoid too.

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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post #13
post #7

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They have almost completely migrated to Mastodon

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If most the infosec professionals consider the latest changes have made Twitter an inviable option, that alone speaks volumes of the quality of those changes.

Also, a highly changing environment (regarding security threats) makes strong networking a survival trait. You don't want to become isolated from a part of the community, and you can always keep both Twitter and Mastodon. In fact, keeping both accounts is a must, because many security companies and government institutions are still only on Twiller.

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