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Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Is this one of those synthetic benchmarks that don't mean much?

It's using a fake "app", but it measures UI updates across multiple real JavaScript frameworks. In other words, probably not a good benchmark for things that are compute-bound or I/O-bound, but probably a pretty good benchmark for "snappiness".

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Firefox is a great browser and Mozilla is a (generally) great organization. It's my daily driver on all my devices (except my TV ha), it's fast and has great plugins that also work in mobile. Philosophically I'm very much a "root for the underdog" type of person so it makes me happy that way, too. Only very rarely (every few months) am I forced to use Chrome for a site - and in my view, that's a huge ding on the site…

Same. Been using it since it was called Camino then Firebird, a confusing namespace collision :P

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

For me, Firefox performs better on Linux than on Windows.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

I use it, but just don't like the devtools. Or moreso miss some things from Chrome/Edge.

For me it's the opposite. Firefox's dev tools feel better. What things are missing?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

I use it, but just don't like the devtools. Or moreso miss some things from Chrome/Edge.

I use the FF devtools daily, and for what I'm working on, it has everything I need to help me get the things I need done. Knowing that I'm not everyone and have plenty to learn, what things are missing from the devtools for you?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome automatically prunes history for quite a while now. Which I personally dislike, as I sometimes need to find something I visited a long time ago.

Firefox does the same thing too unfortunately, and it doesn't seem like it can be turned off. It's a real pita for the same reason. Needed to look at browser history older than a few months and discovering it's all been deleted (by Firefox) was a very unpleasant experience. Seems to be a needless data loss "optimisation" (sic), but I have no idea what the real world use case for that would be.

Not sure if I've done anything special but I've got history going back to 2021.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Firefox is a great browser and Mozilla is a (generally) great organization. It's my daily driver on all my devices (except my TV ha), it's fast and has great plugins that also work in mobile. Philosophically I'm very much a "root for the underdog" type of person so it makes me happy that way, too. Only very rarely (every few months) am I forced to use Chrome for a site - and in my view, that's a huge ding on the site…

>It's strange hearing reports of "scroll lag" in the other comments. It's possible I'm just lucky. Or there's a misconfiguration somewhere in their setup that Chrome somehow avoids.

Don't forget the other possibility: someone using Firefox having internalized this lag as "normal behavior".

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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See also https://arewefastyet.com .

Really cool how you can see Firefox speed enhancements showing up in discrete steps. I am surprised to see Chrome faster than Chromium. What is google doing in their branded flavor?

Chrome tends to be built with a rather slow and stringent set of optimization extras like PGO that people tend to leave off in Chromium builds.
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