Earlier quoted context omitted.
99.99% of Americans had nothing to do with Abu Ghraib either.
And I would object to the claim that "Americans are responsible for Abu Ghraib" for the same reason.
Depends on if the US is a democracy or not.
Scientists have identified the potato pathogen that devastated Ireland (2013)
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Re: Scientists have identified the potato pathogen that devastated Ireland (2013)
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Ireland continued to to export food to the rest of the UK throughout the famine. Arguably all British peoples who had cheap Irish imports benefited.
Who benefited (indirectly) says nothing about who is responsible.
The original reply started:
> 99.99% of British did not benefit from
which is wrong.
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99.99% of Americans had nothing to do with Abu Ghraib either.
And I would object to the claim that "Americans are responsible for Abu Ghraib" for the same reason.
First off, we are responsible.
Second, we did not benefit from what happened there. We did not have lower food prices.
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The vast majority of people who are woefully wrong about history (and current events) are being completely earnest about their beliefs.
W B Yeats, born in Dublin in 1865, put it like this: The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43290/the-second-comi...
And to add the complex icing to the complicated cake, Yeats was Anglo-Irish, from a family that had come over as part of William of Orange's forces during the 17th century Williamite vs. Jacobite war.
(Technicality trivia - he was born in Sandymount, which wasn't part of Dublin until the 1930s)
Re: Scientists have identified the potato pathogen that devastated Ireland (2013)
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It's relevant because if 99.99% of British people had nothing to do with the famine, saying that "the British" were a "pathogen" is somewhere between weapons grade bullshit and outright hate speech.
Haha okay. Who was working for the British landlords in Ireland? Solely the Anglo-Irish? No-one from Britain? Who voted for governments that enforced the Corn Law? Drawing ahead in Irish history by 60 - 70 years, who made up the bulk of the Black and Tans? But sure, can't blame the British for what their aristocracy and elected government did in Ireland, for... ...reasons? Feel like you need a satirical hashtag, like…
> Who voted for governments that enforced the Corn Law?
Not "the British people", if that's what you are implying.
Until the Reform Act of 1867, only a tiny fraction of British adult men (and none of British women) had the right to vote.
The average Briton during the Great Irish Famine had as much influence on the British government as the average Irish person did. Which is to say, none at all.
Re: Scientists have identified the potato pathogen that devastated Ireland (2013)
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
W B Yeats, born in Dublin in 1865, put it like this: The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43290/the-second-comi...
And to add the complex icing to the complicated cake, Yeats was Anglo-Irish, from a family that had come over as part of William of Orange's forces during the 17th century Williamite vs. Jacobite war. (Technicality trivia - he was born in Sandymount, which wasn't part of Dublin until the 1930s)
Eh, that's probably pushing the technicalities too far. Sandymount was part of a a separate administrative region until the 30s (in much the same way that, say, SDCC is today), but for practical purposes it was part of Dublin, and it was contiguous with Dublin; I'm pretty sure even in the mid to late 19th century you could walk from the city centre to Sandymount without leaving the urban area.
Re: Scientists have identified the potato pathogen that devastated Ireland (2013)
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And I would object to the claim that "Americans are responsible for Abu Ghraib" for the same reason.
Depends on if the US is a democracy or not.
Democracy is a scale, not a binary state. The actually relevant question is "could the average American have prevented Abu Ghraib?"
And I believe the answer to be No, so 'Americans' cannot possibly be responsible under any reasonable definition of responsibility.
Re: Scientists have identified the potato pathogen that devastated Ireland (2013)
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
And to add the complex icing to the complicated cake, Yeats was Anglo-Irish, from a family that had come over as part of William of Orange's forces during the 17th century Williamite vs. Jacobite war. (Technicality trivia - he was born in Sandymount, which wasn't part of Dublin until the 1930s)
Eh, that's probably pushing the technicalities too far. Sandymount was part of a a separate administrative region until the 30s (in much the same way that, say, SDCC is today), but for practical purposes it was part of Dublin, and it was contiguous with Dublin; I'm pretty sure even in the mid to late 19th century you could walk from the city centre to Sandymount without leaving the urban area.
Fair enough, was only like 4km from Dublin proper, and as you say, contiguous.
I just like occasionally being technically correct on the Internet, the worst kind of correct.