Did a search and the link is right there.
Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request
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Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request
#62We need a decentralized, uncensorable search engine. Imagine everything that big players want to censor, being available to everyone.
Sounds like a good idea in theory, but when i do imagine it, it seems like it might be a dystopian nightmare of the worst parts of our nature.
I think a better idea would be a regulatory environment for tech that - squeezed monopolies and oligopolies, mandated transparency, and mandated a minimal system of human-tended justice and appeals.
Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Access to YouTube videos is only "authorized" through YouTube's site and official apps (or yada yada), and YouTube videos are copyrighted material. YouTube has technological measures to ensure that you only watch YouTube videos that way. If you circumvent those technology measures, that's prima facie a DMCA violation, no? The definition of circumvention of a technology measure is extremely broad including "to avoid,…
DMCA 1201 isn't just a crap law. It's completely unworkable, as has been known since before it was passed. Suppose Bob is in the business of duplicating public domain US government works. He downloads videos from the NASA website, presses them onto DVDs and sells them on eBay. He can do this without anybody's permission because DVDs are from the mid-90s and the patents are expired. He uses the same DVD format as Holl…
DVD supports both encrypted and unencrypted video, so Bob is only breaking the law if he's releasing a decryption tool. The entire DeCSS case hinged on video decryption specifically, everything else was already implemented by other parties.
Now, if Bob decides to encrypt those DVDs, then you have an interesting legal area where half the law applies and the other half doesn't. DMCA 1201 only applies to things that protect copyrighted works[0], not just any kind of access control measure. And it comes in two parts: one that makes it illegal to break encryption, and another that makes it illegal to provide tools to break encryption. So if you put uncopyrightables behind DVD CSS's encryption algorithm, you can't sue someone for decrypting that particular DVD. But if you distribute a DVD decryption tool, then you're harming the protection of copyrighted DVDs, so you can't distribute a decryption tool even though some jackass might try to functionally recopyright public domain material with DVD CSS.
More interesting than the NASA case would be Kevin MacLeod. He releases Creative Commons music under a CC-BY license, and that license has a clause specifically prohibiting the distribution of Creative commons material with DRM on it. A lot of YouTubers use his music, probably didn't know about this clause, and definitely didn't know that the music industry would rugpull everyone by claiming that dynamic download URLs are a DMCA 1201 technical protection. So if these music industry cases succeed, it also means that a lot of YouTubers are open to some copyleft trolling on Kevin's part. I doubt he'd actually do that, but it's still shitty that this is possible.
[0] See Chamberlain Group v. Skyline Technologies; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamberlain_Group,_Inc._v._Sky...
Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request
#64All of this because they don't want you to download Guizmo - Dans ma ruche ( https://ssyoutube.com/en691rT/ ) Not the first time they've spammed DMCA takedowns either: https://lumendatabase.org/faceted_search?sender_name=Because... In comically French fashion, their complaints also include the same message in French just in case someone in Mountain View is more fluent in French than in English. I wonder if this is ju…
> someone in Mountain View is more fluent in French than in English
No, I think this is for a case of any dispute of terms and particular formulations. The French version, I suppose, is the authoritative original, and a judge or an arbitrator might call for a certified translator to make exact sense of the letter's demands.
Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request
#65DMCA anti-circumvention provisions are regarding tools that circumvent effective access controls. I realize that broken encryption is considered an effective access control in this context despite it being broken, but apps like Newpipe aren't even breaking encryption, right? What aspect of the YouTube servers' behavior can be construed as an effective access control? Is there even a rudimentary secret, that never get…
>What aspect of the YouTube servers' behavior can be construed as an effective access control? Is there even a rudimentary secret
My understanding is that YouTube does implement a trivial sort of DRM/encoding with a rolling cypher to the actual location of video file. This is what tools like youtube-dl implement, and what get their DCMA from the RIAA. It's supposedly very light weight in terms of DRM, and notably I don't think Google has ever attempted to change it to break downloaders.
Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request
#66All of this because they don't want you to download Guizmo - Dans ma ruche ( https://ssyoutube.com/en691rT/ ) Not the first time they've spammed DMCA takedowns either: https://lumendatabase.org/faceted_search?sender_name=Because... In comically French fashion, their complaints also include the same message in French just in case someone in Mountain View is more fluent in French than in English. I wonder if this is ju…
> Dear ssyoutube.com User: As you may have heard, our industry has been under strenuous attacks by certain GB copyright holders. Because of these attacks, it has become financially impractical for ssyoutube.com to continue to provide services in the Great Britain. Accordingly, ssyoutube.com will be terminating its services in the Great Britain as of November 3, 2022. We thank you for your past loyalty and patronage a…
Next step would be for the copyright-enforcement industry to sue VPN providers, claiming that they are making excessive profits by letting users sidestep the geofences, and so they must share some of the profits.
Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request
#67NewPipe is excellent. I was disappointed that it was not available for desktop until I discovered tartube which will download video files from almost any website easily
Oh neat, looks like tartube is a GUI frontend for youtube-dl.
It defaults to youtube-dlp but can be toggled back and forth with youtube-dl.
Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request
#68All of this because they don't want you to download Guizmo - Dans ma ruche ( https://ssyoutube.com/en691rT/ ) Not the first time they've spammed DMCA takedowns either: https://lumendatabase.org/faceted_search?sender_name=Because... In comically French fashion, their complaints also include the same message in French just in case someone in Mountain View is more fluent in French than in English. I wonder if this is ju…
> someone in Mountain View is more fluent in French than in English No, I think this is for a case of any dispute of terms and particular formulations. The French version, I suppose, is the authoritative original, and a judge or an arbitrator might call for a certified translator to make exact sense of the letter's demands.
Right, but the DMCA is an American law. It's irrelevant in France.
Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request
#69All of this because they don't want you to download Guizmo - Dans ma ruche ( https://ssyoutube.com/en691rT/ ) Not the first time they've spammed DMCA takedowns either: https://lumendatabase.org/faceted_search?sender_name=Because... In comically French fashion, their complaints also include the same message in French just in case someone in Mountain View is more fluent in French than in English. I wonder if this is ju…
The client is French. Including a French copy of the message is entirely mundane.
Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request
#70Google probably indexes 25% of the content available nowadays.... I rarely use Google
Is there a good search engine that indexes more stuff?