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Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by user_7832 »

Given how common embedded/box PCs are (so many display boards and digital signages - at the restaurant/every kiosk, operating the dozens of automated processes we take for granted - or not, given it's HN) - I can't imagine the market not existing. Intel making poor business decisions/cost cutting, sure. But the market of box PCs is huge. And Intel is likely the best company on Earth to be able to leverage their knowledge and bring niche products to market that most companies can't even dream of designing (unless you're AMD/Apple/Nvidia - and even they don't have fab + design capabilities.)

As someone who was hoping to use a NUC as a computer/laptop, I am dissappointed in Intel.

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by antisthenes »

There are too many copycats in this space.

Although I am thankful to Intel for starting the NUC trend, at this point they no longer provide good value in this segment.

Their units are generally higher price than competitors at the same hardware level (even using the exact same Intel CPUs).

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by DesiLurker »

stevezsa8 wrote: post #54
DesiLurker wrote: post #44

I call BS on them being not good market fit, Apple does totally fine with mac mini. also these are just laptops w/o screen and battery. IMO the real reason may be worries around minipcs finally getting good enough that they may cannibalize higher margin PC market. BTW there are other vendors like Beelink that make semi decent tiny computers and I have one of those as my teenage kids pc,works just fine.

How is the beelink? I'm really tempted by the price and what you get. But I've never bought anything that wasn't a well known brand like Dell.

the one I have for my daughter is okay. gets the job done but wont use for gaming etc. I do however want to get the Beelink GTR7 [1]. that seems amply powered and decent build quality/noise level.

1. https://www.bee-link.com/beelink-gaming-pc-gtr6900hx-1994384...

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by jwells89 »

thefounder wrote: post #12

The price was an issue. Not being fanless was another issue. So mac mini is the "best nuc" available.

Depending on situation, the way NUCs typically needed external power bricks also made them less attractive. Mac minis aren't as small no, but the size difference for having the PSU be internal is minimal and it eases power strip woes.

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by debaserab2 »

bamfly wrote: post #34

I always wanted to like these, but they seemed consistently overpriced by like 30%. I'd price one out with all the necessary parts, and by the end it was always like, why am I not just buying a mac mini (or an RPi, for lower-intensity applications)?

They make for nice little quiet home linux servers if you need more power than an RPi. A mac mini would be a good choice, too, but then you're stuck on macOS.

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by a13o »

I thought these might eventually have their day with a GaN PSU and a touch screen, running Windows 10+. Kind of like the Continuum vision Microsoft had for Windows Phone; carry a little brick around and dock it as needed. But we have cell phones, tablets, and SoC, so NUC doesn't really excel at anything

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by bri3d »

There are other SFF PCs available which were more competitively priced than NUCs to start with: Minisforum and Geekom are two popular brands I've used. There are also various SFF desktop PCs from major manufacturers like HP EliteDesk Mini which can be found dirt cheap at corporate auctions.

I have an Intel 11th-gen/Tiger Lake Geekom IT11 running as my "home server" with Frigate, HomeAssistant, and so on. It works great, and using OpenVINO for object detection inference and QuickSync for video leaves a ton of headroom for other uses too. The only disadvantage to these, which was shared by NUCs, is that you need to use Thunderbolt for >Gbit Ethernet connectivity.

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

TechieKid wrote: post #14
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Catch up to TSMC at 1.8nm" is the dream. So fabbing other customers' stuff. On the product side, Intel seems to be doubling down on GPUs, in spite of troubling rumors about Arc gen 2. Of course the question is what will be on time and what will be delayed. Previous delays obliterated the product lineups Intel meticulously planned before.

Any links to said "troubling rumors about Arc Gen 2"?

The Moore’s Law Is Dead YT channel claims the GPU as been delayed and "cut back" to a more modest size... But on second thought, I regret making that claim, as MLID is a unreliable source. For instance, they previously claimed Arc was canceled, and die size revisions don't really happen this close to release.

This is the last credible rumor I know of: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-next-gen-arc-battlemage-gp...

Nevertheless Intel did officially modify and delay Falcon Shores (their big server GPU) to 2025, which worrying.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/18756/intel-scraps-rialto-bri...

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by silisili »

bri3d wrote: post #68

There are other SFF PCs available which were more competitively priced than NUCs to start with: Minisforum and Geekom are two popular brands I've used. There are also various SFF desktop PCs from major manufacturers like HP EliteDesk Mini which can be found dirt cheap at corporate auctions. I have an Intel 11th-gen/Tiger Lake Geekom IT11 running as my "home server" with Frigate, HomeAssistant, and so on. It works gre…

I switched from NUC to Minisforum. I will say that the NUC is vastly more stable/better QC, as I've gotten a bad Minis and read others have as well.

That said, the UM790 is probably the best machine I've owned of any type. An absolute steal compared to NUC.

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