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Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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PhotoSync does not have autobackup for iOS last time I tried. Did this change?

Nothing in iOS seems to have true autobackup because background apps don’t seem to reliably wake. What I find is that it works until the app is closed, like after an os update, and then you have to manually open the app before it will start going again. I have mine set to try to run whenever I plug in to charge, and it works pretty consistently until reboot, and from there I’m not consistent about remembering to open…

Well, Google Photos works on iOS. And I presume they would be as much a third party app as anyone else. So it is possible. From what I remember reading in the past it is possible to get wakeup events for GPS location changes. I think that's one trick to get an app to run in the background.

I agree though. It's a shame how iOS is completely crippling background apps.

I'm hoping for an alternative for Google Photos and I'm paying for ente.io. It works fine on Android, but background sync doesn't work on iOS. So for me personally it is not ready to replace Google Photos. If it can't be set and forget for non-technical family members it's not going to cut it.

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Due to machine learning / face recognition.

Picasa could do that too 2014, single threaded. (And is probably still better)

It does feel like we keep going backwards for functionality while resource requirements keep increasing.

Picasa had face recognition, basic editing, and a bunch of sorting features and ran on computers that had something like 1/50th the CPU performance.

Meanwhile modern replacements like DigiKam, Lightroom, ON1, and so on are incredibly bloated with very slow UI response even on a very powerful desktop PC.

Although Immich does at least work well, the webUI is extremely fast and loads images instantly.

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Are you using SyncThing on iOS?

AFAIK you can use SyncThing-like utilities, like Möbius Sync, on iOS, but not for photos, because… iOS does not consider a photo a file. Which is baffling (probably for some security reason), so I have to stick with a USB cord and ifuse + heif-convert on Linux.

You can use it for photos, but for those contained within the photos library that's handled separately through the PhotoKit now. It should be technically possible to backup your photos library through syncthing, I only think the automation of such and the permissions required would probably be annoying to deal with. Not sure if Mobius developer(s) looked into that yet.

If you don't use the photos app, you can keep them all in the files app and it syncs just fine. Annoying to use since the files app is nowhere near as nice for photo browsing/management.

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I prefer SyncThing on both mobile and desktop devices. It's open source and mature, the server only makes devices findable between each other. It allows 1 or 2 way sync. And it has advanced settings for keeping removed files (e.g. trashbin that cleans anything older than X days.)

How do you manage one way sync? IE; deleting photos on your phone without affecting the other side?

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Are you using SyncThing on iOS?

AFAIK you can use SyncThing-like utilities, like Möbius Sync, on iOS, but not for photos, because… iOS does not consider a photo a file. Which is baffling (probably for some security reason), so I have to stick with a USB cord and ifuse + heif-convert on Linux.

Does Immich have a work-around for this that could be implemented in Mobius Sync?

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I prefer SyncThing on both mobile and desktop devices. It's open source and mature, the server only makes devices findable between each other. It allows 1 or 2 way sync. And it has advanced settings for keeping removed files (e.g. trashbin that cleans anything older than X days.)

Yep, backing up phones (without using cloud, if you don't trust it, and I don't) is a pain... syncthing solves this, by syncing all the photos (and other files you want/need) onto a pc/server, that you can then back up using other solutions.

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I’m currently using iCloud. It’s great, but the E2EE comes with the huge caveat that they scan your photos before encrypting, against a giant unaccountable database of hashes for bad stuff. Even though I totally believe that the current set of hashes really does represent truly horrible stuff, I also suspect that it will expand over time to include anything that threatens those in power. In other words: they are comi…

Apple shelved this feature a while ago, what you are thinking about is that it uses an on-device AI to scan for nudity in pictures sent to minors through iMessage, which doesn’t report anything back to apple.

Let’s hope it stays shelved then. In my experience, things are much easier to sneak into the details of some random update once the key functionality has been built and deployed. The root issue here is a loss of trust.

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I’m working on building something similar. From what I can tell, Immich, Ente, and PhotoPrism are the best of the batch when it comes to open source photo storage and management. They are all good, but it depends on what you’re looking for. Personally, I want: E2E encryption, on-device face recognition, and the ability to self-host as well as a paid option for people who don’t want to manage their own server. The exi…

Photoprism had the critical flaw of being single user last time I tried it, making it neat but a complete non starter for someone with a family larger than 1.

The same goes for me and I imagine many more. This is literally the only thing holding it back from being the perfect Google Photos replacement for families with someone who self-hosts.
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